New pics Taken from Gym today

Daveb19 · #1 (**permalink**) 06-19-2002, 06:15 AM

Here I got a couple new pics that I took at the Gym today of me and my friend, they show more than our tricepts. Keep in mind were both only 19 and Still drug free. and that I have only been working out since New years (almost 7 months), before then I took 18 months off and lost most everything. Also im 5"10 and weighed in today at 196lbs, my friend is 260lbs and 6"1. Ok the first Pic is of my friend, the other 2 are me. I guess he doesnt want his face showing so I took covered it.

Daveb19 · #2 (**permalink**) 06-19-2002, 06:19 AM

I went to locker room hoping lighting was better it was somewhat.

Daveb19 · #3 (**permalink**) 06-19-2002, 06:26 AM

ok heres the last one, they didnt turn out as well as I would like them, a lot of striations and veins didnt even show up but oh well. Also im curious what are my weak points as far as upper body goes, I already know my legs are behind thats why they arent in the pic. I woud like too compete in some natural teen comp before I turn 20 in december.

SizeMatters · #4 (**permalink**) 06-19-2002, 02:48 PM

Natural aye? I hate to flame Bro......... but if I don't .... someone else is gonna......... I don't believe you. If your friend is 19, then he is NOT natural!! He has the atypical juicer's body... sorry. And your pics are marginal.... I know some kids are naturally bigger, but if you have only been training for a few months, then I smell something fishy..... and it aint tuna, Bro.... maybe this is a set-up or a joke that I am missing, but if you are serious, then I have my doubts.

HOWEVER, you two both have great size for 19 and can definately be monsters some day... good work....

Daveb19 · #5 (**permalink**) 06-19-2002, 07:58 PM

Yea I expected this, we are both natural. my friend doesnt even have much knowledege of steroids or even has a job to buy them. I did buy some if you look back in the forum it talks about starting my frist cycle and how i bought fina and test, then it also says after i got ripped off and the guy disapeared. I have no reason to lie none of u know me, but I guess its a compliment if you dont beleive, look at skip lacour tho, hes Natural and huge, (my buddy Icon)

SeanP83 · #6 (**permalink**) 06-19-2002, 08:56 PM

This goes to the guy who smells too much fish. I work out with these two everyday and they are my bestfriends, neither of them are users. Why would they lie for no reason? No one on here knows them other than me, so I dont think they are trying to impress anyone and would anyone care if they were users? I doubt it. So think what you want because you cant except the fact that there are people out there that can be big without roids.

SizeMatters · #7 (**permalink**) 06-20-2002, 12:26 AM

Well congrats then on your progress..... it's your story, so stick to it. /t\

On the other subject of Skip Lacour..... YOU HAVE TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME!?! If you think that Skip Lacour is a lifetime natural bodybuilder, then you have a lot to learn.....

Daveb19 · #8 (**permalink**) 06-20-2002, 04:19 AM

I noticed my other pics turned out shitty, so I retook one today, I have no oil or anything but It still shows better definition on me then those other pics so here it is.

ps. I wrote skip Lacour a letter on this same roid subject he responded back with a page email, justifing he is a drug free lifter, his best comment said to me was, no matter what I tell you, you or your buddys can think of something to say back to challenge it.

Big A · #9 (**permalink**) 06-20-2002, 05:24 AM

If you are natural, you have phenomenal genetics and you will go VERY far if you stick to it.

Skip LaCour... take your pick on what gear he uses. He makes ALL his money from claiming that he is natural. Because of that, he would have his 'natural' story worked out very well. Put this proposal to him - you will pay for a drug test ($400) if he goes and has one tomorrow. And then you want the LAB to send you the results. Iguarantee you he won't do it because he has to go away, is busy, has commitments, etc, etc. Or he just won't reply. Sorry to tell you, but all the bodybuilding ideologies that you believe in, don't really exist. I know, I used to be the same when I was 19. By the time I turned 23 or so, and I got deeply involved in bb all my idelas and dreams didn't have a glamour to them anymore, after I saw the reality.

Daveb19 · #10 (**permalink**) 06-20-2002, 10:02 AM

Hey im not against roids man I know its hard to go any where in the sport with out them. But I just used Skip Lacour as an example of the Natural bodybuildin potential maybe he is or isnt drug free. But I do know he told me his method of test is pollygraph which would seem hard to beat, and he has never failed a test and has been competitive for over a decade. Im attaching a pic of Skip I dont see anything in this that just gives away hes a juicer, I think this body type natural is possible, I know me and my friend both dont take too many supps and also dont have the highest protien intake, so If you figure we had perfect diets and took a proper stack of supps pluss added a few years of hard training we would be way bigger. I just know you guys so far have doubted me and my friend as natural lifter and were wrong so being wrong about Skip Lacour as well seems practical.

Big A · #11 (**permalink**) 06-20-2002, 01:06 PM

All you have to do to pass a polygraph test is to clinch yur butt cheeks as hard as you can through out the test. No joke. That will make all the readings unreliable and you pass. The polygraph measures the electric activity on your skin. When you lie, it's higher. When you are in pain (as in a cramp in your ass or a thumb tac in your shoe) your sking is charged constantly. So then it looks as if you are lying to EVERY question, including your name and the colour of the sky, etc. So you pass as obviously you are not lying when you say that the sky is blue, etc. So that makes the test unreliable.

Big A · #12 (**permalink**) 06-20-2002, 01:07 PM

In that pic he does look natural, but have you seen his competition condition? You need GH, T3 and a handful of other drugs to get that kind of condition. And, if you want to keep your muscle on when you use those cutting drugs, you need gear.

Daveb19 · #13 (**permalink**) 06-20-2002, 09:15 PM

Skip Lacour wrote me and Email today this was somethin he said: "I'll take any test--any time--as long as someone who challenges me pays
for it. They are the ones who always back down and come up with all the
excuses"

Big A · #14 (**permalink**) 06-21-2002, 11:31 AM

Cool. Call an IOC approved lab in his area and organise a test. It's about $400. Then tell Skip to show up the folowing day. I am REALLY curious to see whether he would. Who knows, he might be in between cycles so he will turn up LOL

Daveb19 · #15 (**permalink**) 06-22-2002, 01:46 AM

lol, Yea i definitly dont have the extra $ for that.. it seems funny he replies tho, I sent him a link to the forum I guess hes not interested in defending himself..

Tallmofo · #16 (**permalink**) 06-22-2002, 03:22 AM

lmao the first guy juices, you dont get acne like that without juice

Big A · #17 (**permalink**) 06-22-2002, 03:24 AM

Look it at it from his point of view. Why come here and add fuel to the fire just to convince a couple of guys on the internet? Especially when he has so much to lose in the 'real' world, where he makes his $.
I personally couldn't care less if he is on or not. I believe that he is on definetelly from the way his bod looks. What upsets me though is that some young guys actually believe that they will look like he does in comps if they use their supplements. I remember when I was 16 or so. I thought that with steorids I will look like a Pro in 5 years and natural I will look like a pro in 10 years so I said to myself that I will wait 10 years and do it naturally. Then I realised later on that there is no way in hell that I could get there natural. And guess what? It took me 10 years to be pro anyway AND with lots of gear!

Daveb19 · #18 (**permalink**) 06-22-2002, 09:14 AM

ok u guys are fools, we dont take shit, and never have. Either of us would take a drug test if payed for, and sign a contract first that if we fail the test you will get twice your $ back. I plan on competeing soon in a NATURAL DRUG TESTED comp. u can say all u want u just squeeze your ass togeather and pass it, well im not about to attempt that and go in their roided, both me and my friend dont even work I havent in 7months, and Its been even longer for him. Theirs many differences beetween us and most teens, first most have lack of knowledge that holds them back, they dont understand that everyones body is unique and adapts to training differently and wont do a routine perferect for them, We both have a solid base I have been lifting for about 4 years off and on. My friend a littler logner mostly on. Most teens u will find main concern in life isnt bodybuilding, for us it is with out a doubt. The reason either of us dont look like every other teen is becasue we dont train like every other, eat/rest like every other, not to mention genetics are playing a huge role for the both of us, If anyone is in Metro Detroit Area come to Golds of Royal Oak, train with us, and watch the level of intesity we put in each workout.. Theirs not much else I can say

Tallmofo · #19 (**permalink**) 06-23-2002, 03:16 AM

it could be that you both train harder/eat more. i wouldnt be suprised if you actually didnt juice, and i honestly beleive you very well could be natural, without a doubt in my mind. but your friend takes steroids, or has in the past, its not a big deal.

Tallmofo · #20 (**permalink**) 06-23-2002, 03:18 AM

actually after looking at the first pic, you both could be drug free. neither of you are so big its a must. good work lol, sorry about the hard time

Daveb19 · #21 (**permalink**) 06-23-2002, 09:14 AM

lol well thanx i guess.

Tallmofo · #22 (**permalink**) 06-23-2002, 03:09 PM

you guys are bigger than me, bigger than anyone whos natural whove ive ever seen, keep it up, your doin somethin right

swoll4u · #23 (**permalink**) 06-26-2002, 08:15 AM

Hey bro I am from the detroit area and will be moving back next fall, where are some good hardcore gyms down there,Is your golds pretty tight? Or is it more like a healthclub you probably know what I mean later nad stay safe

Daveb19 · #24 (**permalink**) 06-26-2002, 10:41 AM

Yea I would say The golds has everything a bodybuilder would need. except a large amount of competitive bodybuilders, but more then any where else in the area, Ive been to the powerhouse, fitness usa, balleys, and have choosen to stay at golds. I worked at the Powerhouse here and hate all the staff, they are definitly on your ass about everything they have even made me kick out member that wear jeans. Golds staff is laid back, doesnt charge me towl rental, lets me tan free, and i went 4 months w/o payments for free.

playboy · #25 (**permalink**) 06-27-2002, 02:33 AM

dude, you are huge for natural, u gotta let me in for whats your routine for an average week cuz u gotta know something that i don't know