New pics Taken from Gym today

[Daveb19]

Well I have lots of free time for one. My routine right now isnt a routine I go off of feel and constantly make changes, but its a fact even the best routine is only so good until you adapt to it, so to confuse the body I like to make changes constantly, for example. lets say on this monday I wanted to work Chest my work out could be, warmup, 4 sets flat or decline bench press, lets say the work previous chest work out I remeber doing flat bench with a higher rep range for mass 12-15 reps, well this one I would try to do low reps on decline instead with a lower rep range (8-2), i wont do both of these exersizes in the same day since they are too similir. Then moving on I would do something like Incline press the rep range would depend on the previous work out again. if you under stand this lay out so far it goes for any exersize, I try to switch up as much as possible, if i remeber doing machine flys, i will do free weight flys instead, or if remeber doing dumbbell flys on a incline i will try to hit them on a decline, i try to get in about 5 exersizes 3-4 sets per exersize all to failure since that is where the real benefit comes from, since I always have a partner I beleive the true definition of failuire is when you FAIL the attempt to complete a rep and your spotter helps you finish with slight pressure, not when you "feel" like you cannot do any more, go by this philosphy. also for a muscle group like chest i try to arange the exersizes diff, never follow consistity and come in their and do flat bench starting off every chest day, grab the dbs for a change first. I try to avoid smith machines or machines in general if possible, since they arent too effective for negitive motion and the motion is fixed. once in a while when I work on something like lock outs, I will use the smitch machines adjustable rack to only use the top range of motion. try adding in new techniques as much as possible too, like negitive reps, forced reps, chains/rubber for the bench to increase resistance with as the range of motion increases. changing grip from wide to extreme wide. as far as the other muscle groups go I follow these same guide lines, the way I work out I think is the ultimate way to avoid plataeu's. I think me and my friend are a prime example. If thiers one thing that pisses me off its seeing the same guy doin the same shit all week, and obvioulsy they dont grow. that not only is boring but a waste of your time. If your going to spend yoru time in the gym every day, you should atleast utilize it and and reach your goals with as little effort thats required. Good luck, let me know if anyone is going to try any of this out

[Barlow]

hi all! first post wahhoo (w) i just like to say in my opinion u guys talking shit about dave cause im 15 at the moment not really been training intense and hard for over 2 months but training for about a year not really having much knowledge of what i was doing but that did set a nice base for me to work on and i look at my self now and i look at dave's picture and i could seriously picture myself nearly 4 years time in a similar situation to him! training young as u most already know is alomst like being on a natural steroid deifinataly at my age which dave did start training around same age as me!

Only other thing i gotta say great work! you looking great man and i hope u do well in your upcoming competitions! make sure u post the results up.

[Sennett]

holy shit

[Sennett]

that and this is carl

[DRAKE]

Dude, I don't believe for one second that you are natural. I've been around lifting for a while now, and either this is a very very rare occassion or you juice. I think in this case you hit the juice up like a mofo!!!!

[Daveb19]

Originally posted by DRAKE
Dude, I don't believe for one second that you are natural. I've been around lifting for a while now, and either this is a very very rare occassion or you juice. I think in this case you hit the juice up like a mofo!!!!

ok. I am gettin drug tested in november 2nd, its a natural show, you cannot win if you fail the test, so if i juiced it i will come up. Maybe theirs ways around test, but i dont know shit about that this is my first show i am not risking it. lots of guys my size that juice, only thing is I have gotten to such a serious level that the only thing i dont do that the pros do is the drugs. really hard work naturaly pays off. most lifters in my gym dont give it their all, even the ones bigger then me. the whole steroid scene has just pased by me, i am one of the few guys who hasnt taken it to the next level that has everything else fine tuned. good genetics in combo with extreme hard work, lots of knowledge, trial and error on learning your body, just some factors you have to have down to grow beyond others. I am not against steroids, i hope to one day get my pro card, so obviously one day probably after my show, I will start my first cycle.

[Mr OZ]

not saying you juiced or haven't, but dont think that all competitors in a natural show are natural, natural on the day of the show is what the majority are. Most roids are not in your blood for a long time......remember i said most

[BigDave]

hey man ! u look good and if u say your natural then goddamn man!! sick tatts aswell bro, just one Q with the tatts having arms that big like with the armband, what happens if u start getting big stretch marks through it?! can they fix it?? im only 18 man, but u definately doing something right and i wish to god i could get to that stage u at " a la natural " ! keep it up man!

[Ivan]

I think there ia good possibility you are natural.. I am 23 and when I was 19, I was totally natural, 6 feet, 195 pounds. My bf was where u are, low. People always accused me of juicing, (which I did later that year and jumped to 230) so I can see how u feel. I started lifting when I was 14. I loved it, was addiced to it. I wanted to juice in HS, but where I am from, it was a pipe dream. It was not until College (I wrestled) that I found it, and another thing, u prolly play sports, and in my case wrestling and football, gave me big ass traps like yours. So no worries man, u are probably natural.

PS----u do have quite a bit to learn, natural bb's juice, just not the same quantities that pros do, do not be fooled by bullshit mgazine articles claining this supplement made them look like this etc....Do you think the dude on the bowflex commercials got yoked from the machine?

[powerrack]

I believe you! Good genetics, combined with good diet and nutrition. That is what this guy is. Why do so many people doubt him. Get a life suckas.

[w8ts]

I remember when I was a teen I grew like I was on steroids but wasn't. Some people have better genetics than others. I think you are one of them. Take advantage of your gift and keep up the good work.

[GEAR_BOSS]

Id like to see a leg pic to see if you look like one of the cartoon characters? How come you havent posted a leg shot anyway???

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Daveb19
Yea I would say The golds has everything a bodybuilder would need. except a large amount of competitive bodybuilders, but more then any where else in the area, Ive been to the powerhouse, fitness usa, balleys, and have choosen to stay at golds. I worked at the Powerhouse here and hate all the staff, they are definitly on your ass about everything they have even made me kick out member that wear jeans. Golds staff is laid back, doesnt charge me towl rental, lets me tan free, and i went 4 months w/o payments for free. [/QUOTE

[Daveb19]

Originally posted by GEAR_BOSS
Id like to see a leg pic to see if you look like one of the cartoon characters? How come you havent posted a leg shot anyway???
. [/QUOTE [/B]

I have its on here, keep looking man

[longman24]

Your weight training and diet have paid off BIGTIME Dave! Those arms of yours are a work of muscle art and those traps and shoulders of yours need to be in some kind of muscle museum as well. Don't worry about all the crap about steroids from some of these guys....you are looking GREAT and the thickness of your muscular development is astounding. Keep smiling and flexing, BIG GUY! ;)

[crackerjack414]

dame dude you have great size iam the same age but i dont look anywhere near that good. I have the strength, but not the symetry. Best of luck to you

[diablo69]

Dave:

where is the show at?

you say your not on gear that is great. But everyone in prison say almost the same thing " I didn't kill that person I was framed" basicaaly the same thing as I'm natural.

Is this a michigan board or something?

[Daveb19]

Originally posted by diablo69

you say your not on gear that is great. But everyone in prison say almost the same thing " I didn't kill that person I was framed" basicaaly the same thing as I'm natural.

Comparing me to a Jail burg killer.... Its not that big of a deal, your looking into it too much, those are natural pics of me, if i was steroids I would say so, im going to start my first cycle next week, then I will show u pics after what I would look like on steroids. Theirs lots of big natural guys, my best friend is against roids hes 6"1 260lbs, with about 12% bodyfat, benching 450... You would be amazed how far the human body can go naturally,.. you are.

Ps, Lots of Supplements actually work, and I am very strict with supplement use, i probably consume atleast 100.00 of supplements every 2 weeks I would guess, although I wouldnt recommend anyone to spend near that much $ on supp's, check out the pic I attched today..

[diablo69]

Originally posted by Daveb19


Ps, Lots of Supplements actually work, and I am very strict with supplement use, i probably consume atleast 100.00 of supplements every 2 weeks I would guess, although I wouldnt recommend anyone to spend near that much $ on supp's, check out the pic I attched today..

So, where is competetion at? Royal oak? hazel park? troy? madison heights? wouldn't be hard to find out.
would like to show up and give a natuarl BB'r some support.

50 a week on supplement really not that much. Well I wish u luck in your endevors. Would like to see some picture when ur on gear.. u will be a killer then/t\

[astrolifter]

It looks like he has pin marks on the outside of both biceps /t\

[Daveb19]

Originally posted by astrolifter
It looks like he has pin marks on the outside of both biceps /t\

man u caught us... good work detective

[nynsb]

Pictures with shirts mean that there is ab work to be done.
Let's see them.,

[dblitz]

I dont want to flame either.
I am not jelouse by far hehe.excuse the spelling thanx.
Anyhow when I was young I grew up with my clan.
hehe was kind of in the mob hehe.
Strike that.
Growing up my friend was the gifted one but we had
more nut sack.He was thick always when he worked
out we had our several 40 EVEN 62ounces private stock and
cigarettes.He was the only one who seemed to grow
,and grow he did.
when he passed the two hundred pound mark he was
unstoppable.We were at a bar once ,and Ille even tell
you were .Bridgeport Connecticut.When an older guy
bumped into us and got all roudy.My guttless friend
went into his left trench coat pocket and pulled out our
(well it was his fathers Machete),It was after the bar
tender had kicked us out.when he pulled it out and
came down on thE guy.With the fource he took the
mans whole RIGHT arm off,right too the ground.Simultaniously
his buddy stepped up to me and 155 pd kid dropped
just another bearded guy.
What I wanted to say is that even if you grow up with some one and have been threw alot.By the way this shit isnt the worst
shit we had been threw.You really dont know what the hell is going on when your young.
A BIG P.S. HIS BROTHER TOLD HIM NOT TO TELL A SOUL HE WAS
TAKING THESE THINGS AS DIRECTED AND AS A TRUE STREET GHETTO BOY HE DIDNT.PERIOD.BECAUSE OF THE FAMILY!!
my buddy had addmitted he was on juice when we
were older.

[Daveb19]

Originally posted by dblitz
I dont want to flame either.
I am not jelouse by far hehe.excuse the spelling thanx.
Anyhow when I was young I grew up with my clan.
hehe was kind of in the mob hehe.
Strike that.
Growing up my friend was the gifted one but we had
more nut sack.He was thick always when he worked
out we had our several 40 EVEN 62ounces private stock and
cigarettes.He was the only one who seemed to grow
,and grow he did.
when he passed the two hundred pound mark he was
unstoppable.We were at a bar once ,and Ille even tell
you were .Bridgeport Connecticut.When an older guy
bumped into us and got all roudy.My guttless friend
went into his left trench coat pocket and pulled out our
(well it was his fathers Machete),It was after the bar
tender had kicked us out.when he pulled it out and
came down on thE guy.With the fource he took the
mans whole RIGHT arm off,right too the ground.Simultaniously
his buddy stepped up to me and 155 pd kid dropped
just another bearded guy.
What I wanted to say is that even if you grow up with some one and have been threw alot.By the way this shit isnt the worst
shit we had been threw.You really dont know what the hell is going on when your young.
A BIG P.S. HIS BROTHER TOLD HIM NOT TO TELL A SOUL HE WAS
TAKING THESE THINGS AS DIRECTED AND AS A TRUE STREET GHETTO BOY HE DIDNT.PERIOD.BECAUSE OF THE FAMILY!!
my buddy had addmitted he was on juice when we
were older.

Ya whatever man, a little off in the right field their... Juice Smuce, im not about impressing internet guys i dont know, being under credited wouldnt harm my ego, Im about to start my first cycle this week and when i post pics again u will see the difference

[Daveb19]

Originally posted by nynsb
Pictures with shirts mean that there is ab work to be done.
Let's see them.,

ab work? fist of u all what u wanna say is body fat work, i could have best abs in world u wouldnt know unless im somewhat ripped, 2nd, i wasnt ripped in that pic i did have a decent 6pac @ about 10-12% bodyfat 205lbs, since then i got down to 8.5% then i had a pretty nice 6pac and was at 194lbs, now im 212 no 6pac what so ever, who cares tho not me, its winter time to bulk. lets see your pic anyway Nynsb? probably some guy with a 130lb 6,1" frame, with one of those high metabolism 6pacs and 12.6" arms

[doug1]

Originally posted by Big A
If you are natural, you have phenomenal genetics and you will go VERY far if you stick to it.

. Sorry to tell you, but all the bodybuilding ideologies that you believe in, don't really exist. I know, I used to be the same when I was 19. By the time I turned 23 or so, and I got deeply involved in bb all my idelas and dreams didn't have a glamour to them anymore, after I saw the reality.

i wish i could have learned sooner, it took me almost ten years to learn what you discovered in 4! i guess some of us are just slower learners...*/