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Old 03-29-2002, 06:16 PM
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help me win this fucking arguement

my friend keeps saying we can bring juice cross if we "declare it" i tell him this is bullshit, its still illegal. he says if a mexican doctor writes a script you can declare it and brin it accross. this is bullshit correct.
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Old 03-29-2002, 06:26 PM
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Actually, your friend is partially correct. If you have a prescription from and American doctor you can purchase controlled (schedule III) drugs in other countries, declare them and bring them across. Couple of exceptions and you may not bring more than 90 days worth of product.

If you can find an American doctor that will write you a script for gear, please PM me, cause that will be a treasure.

Mexican scripts will be challenged and your gear could get confiscated. I would recommend extreme caution. Additionally, I heard about some new law which says a person may bring certain amounts of presciption drugs across without a script as long as they declare the drugs. I spoke with a friend at customs and was advised that was not correct. He said sometime they start rumors to assist in busting people. I would not take that chance. Could get expensive.

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Old 03-29-2002, 06:32 PM
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Actually, your friend is partially correct. If you have a prescription from and American doctor you can purchase controlled (schedule III) drugs in other countries, declare them and bring them across. Couple of exceptions and you may not bring more than 90 days worth of product.

If you can find an American doctor that will write you a script for gear, please PM me, cause that will be a treasure.

Mexican scripts will be challenged and your gear could get confiscated. I would recommend extreme caution. Additionally, I heard about some new law which says a person may bring certain amounts of presciption drugs across without a script as long as they declare the drugs. I spoke with a friend at customs and was advised that was not correct. He said sometime they start rumors to assist in busting people. I would not take that chance. Could get expensive.

Hope this helps.

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what does happen when you get caught at the border?
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Old 03-29-2002, 06:38 PM
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Depends on the guard, the time, etc.. They can arrest you, confiscate gear. If you are driving a vehicle they can confiscate your car. You could get fined. Normally, they just search deeper, confiscate and fine you, depending on the amounts. If you have to much you will be labled a smuggler, then the bad stuff can happen. Be careful and purchase something else,a blanket or doll for your girl. Have a beer, get something to eat. Then when they ask why you went to Mexico you have an answer with some sort of proof. peace.
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I hope this helps:
I got this from a govt site about traveling abroad. I can't remember the site but I will post it when I find out.
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Consumer Alert

The U.S. Customs Service enforces Federal laws and regulations, including those of the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

A new bill was recently passed by Congress that amends a portion of the Controlled Substances Act (21USC956(a)). This amendment allows a United States resident to import up to 50 dosage units of a controlled medication without a valid prescription at an international land border. These medications must be declared upon arrival, be for your own personal use and in their original container. However, travelers should be aware that drug products which are not approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration may not be acceptable for such importation. FDA warns that such drugs are often of unknown quality and discourages buying drugs sold in foreign countries. Please go to http://www.fda.gov/ora/import/purcha...edications.htm for further information.

The United States Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. sections 331(d), and 355(a)), which is administered by FDA, prohibits the interstate shipment (which includes importation) of unapproved new drugs. Unapproved new drugs are any drugs, including foreign-made versions of U.S. approved drugs, that have not received FDA approval to demonstrate they meet the federal requirements for safety and effectiveness. It is the importer's obligation to demonstrate to FDA that any drugs offered for importation have been approved by FDA.

FDA has developed guidance entitled "Coverage of Personal Importations" which sets forth that agency's enforcement priorities with respect to the personal importation of unapproved new drugs by individuals for their personal use. The guidance identifies circumstances in which FDA may consider exercising enforcement discretion and refrain from taking legal action against illegally imported drugs. Those circumstances are as follows:

1. the intended use (of the drug) is unapproved and for a serious condition for which effective treatment may not be available domestically either through commercial or clinical means;

2. there is no known commercialization or promotion to persons residing in the U.S. by those involved in the distribution of the product at issue;

3. the product is considered not to represent an unreasonable risk;

4. the individual seeking to import the product affirms in writing that it is for the patient’s own use (generally not more than a 3-month supply) and provides the name and address of the doctor licensed in the U.S. responsible for his or her treatment with the product, or provides evidence that the product is for the continuation of a treatment begun in a foreign country.
FDA's guidance is not, however, a license for individuals to import unapproved (and therefore illegal) drugs for personal use into the U.S. Even if all of the factors noted in the guidance are present, the drugs remain illegal and FDA may decide that such drugs should be refused entry or seized. The guidance represents FDA’s current thinking regarding the issues of personal importation and is intended only to provide operating guidance for FDA personnel. The guidance does not create any legally enforceable rights for the public; nor does it operate to bind FDA or the public.

To avoid travel delays and to prevent possible harm from taking unsafe or ineffective medications, residents and visitors upon arrival to or departure from the U.S. should keep in mind the following precautions:

Do not assume that medications which are legal in foreign countries are also approved for use in the United States. These products may be illegal and may include addictive and dangerous substances;

Be aware that the labeled uses (conditions for which the product is represented to be effective) for a product purchased outside the U.S. may not be approved in the United States;

It can be dangerous to take some medications without medical supervision. The reason why some medications are limited to prescription use in the United States is that either they are unsafe without medical supervision or a medical diagnosis is required to ensure that the medication is appropriate for your condition;

Avoid purchasing any drug products that they do not approve for sale in the U.S. (including foreign-manufactured versions of U.S. approved drugs). FDA cannot assure that these products conform to the manufacturing and quality assurance procedures mandated by U.S. laws and regulations and, therefore, these products may be unsafe. In addition, such products are illegal in the U.S. and, therefore, may be subject to entry refusal;

Some medications which may appear to be U.S. approved drug products may in fact be counterfeit versions of such products. (The term "counterfeit drug' is defined as "a drug which, or the container or labeling of which, without authorization, bears the trademark, trade name, or other identifying mark, imprint, or device, or any likeness thereof, of a drug manufacturer, processor, packer, or distributor other than the person or persons who in fact manufactured, processed, packed, or distributed such drug and which thereby falsely purports or is represented to be the product of, or to have been packed or distributed by, such other drug manufacturer, processor, packer, or distributor." See 21 U.S.C. 321(g)(2));

In the event you develop complications from using a medication which require medical attention, your treatment could be delayed or made more difficult unless there is sufficient information available about the product, such as the generic name of the product, dosage form and strength, and how often you need to take the product.

Possession of certain medications without a prescription from a physician licensed in the United States may violate Federal, State, and/or local laws;

lt is important to have medications in the originally-dispensed container;

FDA's personal importation guidance provides that when bringing unapproved drugs into the U.S. for use in treating serious or life threatening illness, such products should be used under the care and supervision of a U.S. licensed physician. It is advisable to make available for examination by U.S. Customs Inspectors or other appropriate government authorities appropriate documentation of such monitoring;

It is against the law not to properly declare imported medications to U.S. Customs.

When the type of drug, the quantity, or the combination of various drugs arouse suspicions, U.S. Customs Inspectors will ordinarily contact the nearest FDA or DEA office for advice and will then make a final determination about whether to release or detain the article. (See 19 U.S.C. 1499).

In addition to federal requirements, individual States may have additional requirements covering prescription (Rx) or controlled medications. Travelers should check with State authorities, where they reside or are traveling, to verify that a particular prescription does in fact comply with State regulations. In many areas, the local police department and pharmacies can provide additional information.

For more detailed information on FDA's personal importation guidance, contact your local FDA office, or check out FDA's Internet website.
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Old 03-29-2002, 08:42 PM
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Here is the link to the article:

http://www.customs.ustreas.gov/travel/med.htm

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