if I have a natural show in 14 weeks....

animal B · #1 (**permalink**) 03-25-2002, 04:39 PM

disign a cycle if I have a natural show in 1 4 weeks...no GH available
was thinking of
tren
propin
suspen
dbol

NAPALM1 · #2 (**permalink**) 03-25-2002, 04:58 PM

Bro, don't take this the wrong way. If anyone uses AAS to win a natural show...its cheeting...plain and simple, and they have absolutely nothing to be proud of if they do win. I am very passionate about competition and its just not right. Using AAS for a few years and quitting for a year or two leading up to the show is and always will be an exceptable practice. But using AAS up to a natural show, or quitting a few weeks or months out, so you don't get caught, is cheating...period. I know guys do it, I actually have a couple freinds on juice right now that are competing in a natural show in a few months. But I don't agree with it. Its unfair to the guys that are actually following the rules of whatever organization they are competing in. I juice, and I juice heavily before a show, but I would never enter a natural show, because in the end I would know that I really didn't win at all. Later

Trentbolone · #3 (**permalink**) 03-25-2002, 06:04 PM

i dont think any 'natural' guys show up. its full of juicers. the only natural people that show up wouldnt win anyway, either way. the natural people are people like frank sepe, yeah, they are natural.. i agreee with you napalm. but it just aint happening.

SizeMatters · #4 (**permalink**) 03-25-2002, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by animal B
disign a cycle if I have a natural show in 1 4 weeks...no GH available
was thinking of
tren
propin
suspen
dbol

Bwahahahahahah!! Sounds really NATURAL!! LMAO!!

Hey Trent.. there are all natural shows you know? I've done them.... we are just a bunch of little guys, though.... /;

Dezir · #5 (**permalink**) 03-25-2002, 06:30 PM

I thought that they tested all the guys in all of the natural shows on the day of the show.

NAPALM1 · #6 (**permalink**) 03-25-2002, 09:00 PM

Most natural shows only test a handful of the competators before the show, this is to save $$, because these tests are not cheap. If there is complaints of possible use of one of the winners, then they might be tested after the contest and their title stripped if they are found to be dirty.

Trent, there are a lot of guys that follow the rules bro. I know several competators that are natural and I have a lot of respect for them. Training naturally is extremely hard and everything has to be done in an exact mannor. Some of them have used in the past, but that is exceptable as long as the rules for the show being entered are followed. Most competitions have a 1, 2 or 3 year rule. Meaning you have to have been clean for that long to enter. Besides, alot of these shows are local or state competitions. So. chances are someone else is going to know you are juicing. I can tell you with a 95% probability rate who is using in the gyms I train at, even if I don't know them personally. So when I see them walk onstage in a natural contest, I know they are cheating. So other people have to know also. Later

SizeMatters · #7 (**permalink**) 03-25-2002, 10:37 PM

Organizations like the NGA and the NANBF are promoting "Lifetime Drug Free" shows... yes they do urine test BEFORE the show, but then if you place at all you get to take a polygraph test (on the spot) and ANOTHER urine test. I know when these orgs started they had a 7 year rule, but now they have gone lifetime natural... and they banned diuretics and even andro products... so you can get a pretty fair shake at these shows.

However, we all know shows like a "Natural" NPC show that just do random drug testing are for the juicers.. you only have to be "clean" for those shows.. and with masking agents and drug longevity, it is pretty easy to fool the system.

You just have to decide who you want to go up against...

Peace.

i-am-a-flammer · #8 (**permalink**) 03-26-2002, 01:51 PM

In my opinion, anyone who uses juice, and then competes in a natural show, is a piece-of-crap, chicken shit, pussified, loser who can't make it in a regular show. So please don't use and compete in a natural show, or you'll end up being one of those people I just described.

BTW- Freeze, was that "A LITTLE" more tactful?

jstrong20 · #9 (**permalink**) 03-26-2002, 05:04 PM

Lol! I guess if you take test suspension technicaly you'd still be natural. Well anyway I don't see a problem with entering a natural show. I say either you win or you don't and it doesn't matter how. And just because someone tries to compete natural it is no excuse for being small. Just curious at what weights are these guys that claim to be natural weighing in at? IF its anything over 225lbs. in contest shape I can garentee they are not natural.

SizeMatters · #10 (**permalink**) 03-26-2002, 05:42 PM

180 lbs.
100% Natural.

http://www.labrada.com/images/skipnelson1.jpg

IT CAN BE DONE!! /t\

preist943 · #11 (**permalink**) 03-28-2002, 12:15 AM

natural shows are there for a reason so non users can still enjoy the sport if you use and enter a natural show your a 2time looser cause you couldnt win in a reg show and you couldnt win without cheating in the nat show either and it dosnt mater how many other guys do it it still sucks is like a viper raceing a kia just hearing shit like that pisses me of to no end hope i didnt get out of line here