DBOL doseage time?

LilGuy · #1 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 12:37 AM

Im about to do 30mg daily of DBOL with my cycle.

I was planning on doing this.

8am = 10mg
1pm = 10mg
6pm = 10mg

Should I do that or just chomp all 30mg 30min - 60min before my workout?

Or should I up the dose to 40mg.

My stats are 5'8", 141, Ive been told 30mg daily is enough.

#2 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 12:46 AM

I would spread the times and doseages evenly, remember that your body likes schedules, just like dieting.

LilGuy · #3 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 12:59 AM

So go ahead and keep the schedule that I was planning on?

Freez · #4 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 03:30 AM

I think that for your stats and if this is the first time using dbol that 30mg ED is enought to throw in with your cycle. I would however do this:
8am-5mg
10am-5mg
12pm-5mg
2pm-5mg
4pm-5mg
6pm-5mg
The half-life of dbol is roughly 4hrs so the more you split it up the more you are really builing up the blood concentration levels and keeping them more constant, which whith any gear is a good thing. If you were to do it the way you posted it will be pretty much a see-saw effect with your levels. Of course for some, it its difficult to dose that many times a day,(I've been there)but that is probably the optimal way to run 30mg ED.
As for the single dose pre-work-out, I like that also. Basically you have to weigh your options and decide if you want to add to the intensity of your worrkout (single dose) which will work but you will miss out on the benefits of steady levels which are more conducive to the muscle bulding process or go with the sread out doses, which I beleive you at your stats will benefit most from at this point in time. Peace. Freez.

nemesis · #5 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 03:50 AM

yeh, what he said.+)

LilGuy · #6 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 04:12 AM

Ive gotten some replies from other boards saying to take 50mgs daily.

From my understanding this is quite dangerous on the liver and also has a high chance of the "rage" coming with it.

nemesis · #7 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 04:23 AM

50 mg's is to much, my opionon. way to much strain on your liver,
just do 30mg's for 5 to 6 weeks.

Freez · #8 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LilGuy
Ive gotten some replies from other boards saying to take 50mgs daily.

From my understanding this is quite dangerous on the liver and also has a high chance of the "rage" coming with it.

Hey bro I'm sure you've also gotten replies to do a gram of test and 600mg a week for your first cycle too. 30mg is all you need. I have a friend that has done cycles before and is 160. He is doing 30mg ED and is having great results.
Try not to get caught up in the "machismo" of alot of the guys on the boards. For some reason it is no longer "cool" to reccomend lower doses starting out. I, however beleive in this philosophy.
Basically there are two schools of thought as to the first cycle:
1. Bombard the receptors and get the most out of your first cycle (a la Paul Borrenson)
2. The minimalist approach- use just enough to get good gains.

Personally I have seen both sides with guys I know. Whethetr they uses 2-3mg per body pound of test or dis a gram of test and deca and dbol and finished up with winny. . .the avg resuls for the first cycle have been in the neighborhood of 20-30lbs. Not saying that there is no merit to the bombardment theory, I'm just expressing my opinion. I know for myself If I started at a gram a week I'd be at about 5 or 6 grams now. (It also economics as well)

As for the "rage" I have yet to see a guy pop 50mg of dbol and lose it. I'm pretty "hot wired" and I am doing 100mg ED now with my cycle and there is no carnage . . .yet. :088: If there is I'm sure it will have more to do with the fina than anything else. (Won't happen though)
dbol is 17aa which is liver toxic and although 30 even 50mg ED doesn't affect many people adversely you may be one that does react badly. Who knows? I'm definately not trying to scare you but just reinforce the fact that 30mg ED is enough. If you want hit me up with your e-mail and I'll have my 160lb bud talk to you. He's relatively new to the scene but being in the same general weight range you might be able to get a better idea of what the options are for you. Peace. Freez.

LilGuy · #9 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 04:35 AM

Im actually thinking of doing DBOL alone for the 6 weeks to see how my body takes and reacts, then if all goes well I will do a more advanced cycle. I dont wanna do some kick ass cycle from the get go.

So 30mg will be more than enough for me?

Im 9% BF as well.

Im going to take .25mg of Arimidex daily and about 600mg milk thistle as well.

Seem good to you guys?

nemesis · #10 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 04:35 AM

hey freez,,, did you just tell this guy not to do that much dball but yet,,, you just said your doing 100mg's e/d. did i hear you right.??????)

Freez · #11 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nemesis
hey freez,,, did you just tell this guy not to do that much dball but yet,,, you just said your doing 100mg's e/d. did i hear you right.??????)

I'm also 270lbs and started juicing 12 years ago (I had a few breaks in between but Rahway has a real nice gym ;) ) And have just started the sauce again a couple years ago. Body weight definately plays a factor when introducing drugs to the system. The first time I took dbol was 25mg ED with test (maybe 500mg a wek, I can remember) I hear what you are saying and this is the reason I don't generally post my cycles but as I do give advise sometimes you have to entertain the masses. It's one of those "do as I say, not as I do" type of things.

Also, I usually only run 50mgED but have decided to throw in 50mg preworkout because I'm just beat whean I work out. (late at night) I believe I know my body well enogh now to know my limits. Obvoisly I don't reccomend anyone emulate a persons cycle just because they look good or get good gains.

I know I sound like a hipocrit but (I am) I am also a firm beleiver in seeing who your body react to a substance.

LilGuy, I really couldn't tell you about what a good way to run a dbol only cycle would be as I simplydon't have the experience in that area. I'm sure there is a guy or two on the board that can help you in that dept. better than I.

Peace. Freez.

LilGuy · #12 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 06:10 AM

I dont have to take it with food do I?

Cyclone · #13 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 07:18 AM

its way better on an empty stomach, better absorbtion, but if you get upset stomach easily, use with food. i do them between meals.

i-am-a-flammer · #14 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 04:15 PM

Here's another one. Bro, at 5'8" and 141lbs, you SHOULD NOT be using roids. A big FU to the bros giving him advice to the contrary. You should wait until you're at least 180-190. And then start with test, not d-bol.

No offense bro, but my girlfriend is bigger than you, and she doesn't juice. If a chick can do it, so can you.

Freez · #15 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwrecknsew
Here's another one. Bro, at 5'8" and 141lbs, you SHOULD NOT be using roids. A big FU to the bros giving him advice to the contrary. You should wait until you're at least 180-190. And then start with test, not d-bol.

No offense bro, but my girlfriend is bigger than you, and she doesn't juice. If a chick can do it, so can you.

Hey bro, I appreciate the "big FU." I haven't had one in a while. I would just like to know why you would pick an arbitrary number such as 180-190 for a guy that is 5'8" as the proper time when to use gear? You can't be serious. . .right. Holding each and every individual to your standards and what you think the right time for him to use is. That seems pretty short sided if you ask me.
I appreciate your opinion and respect it but to piss on someone else for helping an adult who is going to do it anyway just gets under my skin a little bit. Sorry, for not living in your world but I'm pretty sure that this is a forum for the expression of everyones thoughts and ideas.
Peace. Freez.

LilGuy · #16 (**permalink**) 03-23-2002, 03:34 AM

My dad was smaller than I was and he worked out.

He was cut as hell, 5'8", 128lbs when he was 20.

Im about to be 20 in a couple of months, I eat all I can, Im very cut, it's my genetics.

He is now 52, quit working out about 2 years ago and is only 152, he broke that like last week.

murrz · #17 (**permalink**) 03-23-2002, 12:20 PM

I personaly think you should try weight gainers and over the counter suplements before you get into anything harder. You need to hit your peek on streanth and size before you do the juice, you will get much better results. 50 mgs is way to much for a beginer. "More is not better" You should start at 20 or 30 mgs and see what results you get before and you can up it from there. You also need to toss in 4 to 600 mgs of test for the best results. At your size you need to take in 4000 calls a day and 1.5 time your body weight in protien alone.

LilGuy · #18 (**permalink**) 03-24-2002, 12:13 AM

Done that been doing it since high school, my max is a weak 240 on bench, I guess thats pretty good since Im so small.

My diet is fine and all that.

Around 300g pro daily
Around 4000g cal daily

excape · #19 (**permalink**) 03-24-2002, 01:53 AM

Yo Freez! do you go to (Syn) in Rahway , if you do we should hook up sometime and trade some info???

Only the big and strong will survive!!

murrz · #20 (**permalink**) 03-24-2002, 03:41 PM

Lilguy I still would not start out at 50 mg of dbol, you can always up your dose. If you want to break your bench press try this. For 14 days straight do 150 pushups every day. You can do them in 20's 50's or whatever. On your chest day's do your pushups after your chest workout. After 14 day's take off 14 day's from the pushups and then start back up again. You still do your chest every week even though you are not doing the pushup's. This WILL break your bench press max.

forbodybuilders · #21 (**permalink**) 03-24-2002, 04:34 PM

i take maxx 100mg d-bol a day for 2 weeks!i take it after 150mg anadrol a day and then go to 100mg d-bol (2 weeks)and now i am on 50mg d-bol a day(one week) and then i will go on 25 mg a day(one week)! this is me guys

forbb

NubianBeauty · #22 (**permalink**) 03-24-2002, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by forbodybuilders
i take maxx 100mg d-bol a day for 2 weeks!i take it after 150mg anadrol a day and then go to 100mg d-bol (2 weeks)and now i am on 50mg d-bol a day(one week) and then i will go on 25 mg a day(one week)! this is me guys

forbb

+) +) ;ass; ;boid;

Freez · #23 (**permalink**) 03-24-2002, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by forbodybuilders
i take maxx 100mg d-bol a day for 2 weeks!i take it after 150mg anadrol a day and then go to 100mg d-bol (2 weeks)and now i am on 50mg d-bol a day(one week) and then i will go on 25 mg a day(one week)! this is me guys

forbb

ROTFLMAO

I'm speecheless. Peace. Freez.

murrz · #24 (**permalink**) 03-25-2002, 10:31 PM

Say good buy to your liver dumb ass. You never mix dbol and AD-50, it's a waste and very toxic to your body. You will pay for your stupidity down the road. Murrz out!!!!!!

LilGuy · #25 (**permalink**) 03-27-2002, 03:30 AM

Im taking 35mg daily guys.