Best workouts for lats and abs?

[LilGuy]

Anyone know the best workout for lats and abs?

I work them out but unfortunately I cant seem to get a washboard stomach nor can I get the waves along the rib cage that I want either?

Help!!!

[rAJJIN]

Hows your diet? Training is the easy part

[davebelone]

to see your abs you have to diet hardcore. no matter how you ab develpment is, you wont see them if you are not lean. you need a good diet.