newbie needs help with cycle

[noskilz]

Hey guys, I've been researching several boards for about 2 yrs. and still have alot of questions. I'm an athletic guy (softball, basketball, 4x/wk) and I'm looking more to increase speed/strength.
I was always in good shape until the "BIG 30" suddenly I found myself at age 31, 5'11'' 250 lbs
I began weight training and cleaned up my diet
Mon. Chest,Shoulders,Triceps
Wed. Back,Biceps
Thurs. legs, abs
Usually 8-10 exercises 3 sets 13,10,8 reps adding weight each set
cardio 5 times a week

I really got into working out and took 1 cycle of winstrol(oral) 40mg ed 6 wks

After 2 years I was age 33, 5'11'' 195 lbs and in the best shape of my life

Got new girlfriend started eating out alot and neglecting workouts, the weight is back and muscle mass gone. I was back up to 245 lbs
I started training again for about 3 months now and cleaned up my diet currently I'm 35, 5'11'' 220 lbs.

I've been looking at some oral cycles to try first before graduating to injectibles

Can you look at this cycle, tell me what you think and offer any suggestions.

all oral cycle
Winstrol 50mg ed wk 1-6
anavar 50mg ed wk 1-6
T-3 25-100mg in pyramid form wk1-6
clen 40 100mg ed wk 1,2,5,6

Do you think this will be effective to gain lean muscle mass and burn fat in conjunction with then above workout and clean diet?
Also I've read about taking injectible winny orally is there any benefit to this vs. tablets, and is it easier on the liver?

Should a liver protectant be taken with this cycle?

Also is there any other tablets to stack with winstrol instead of anavar as it's kinda pricy? Or would the cycle be effctive with just Win/t3/clen?

Sorry for the long post guys, but I would really appreciate any help.
Thanks

[noskilz]

Thanks for the input. I've had success with eca in the past. What brand of ephedrine do you suggest? I used vasapro before it made me kinda shaky. As for the anavar I've seen a wide range of prices. How can you tell whether it's a superior product or overpriced?
Thanks for the help

[Tyrone]

Originally Posted by skinny D

Why use clen 2wk on 2 off?? What you got planed out should work great just run clen whole time.

but definitely making clen less effective as time goes on and you keep taking it. To counteract this, you can take some ketotifen or periactim every 3rd or 4th week that you remain on clen. Both of these are prescription anti-histimines, so they’ll make you drowsy (take before bedtime). Basically, the way both of these work is to reduce beta-2 receptor activity.

Hooker also states if you want to just stay on Clenbuterol, you can take 50mgs of Benadryl every night for a week (say...1 week per month), and you'll keep your beta-2 receptors fresh. Instead of coming off the clen, that is.

Using Ketotifen(Zedatin)/Bendadryl are the two things you can use along with it...If you chose not to use them you would come off for 2 weeks...That's why I come off and use ECA...Some say that it's still hitting the beta-2 so not to use it while off Clen...ECA doesn't cause as much down regulation and desensitization of the receptors at least not as much clen does... Ephedrine has a shorter half life and the betas can partially recover through out the day...

[Tyrone]

Originally Posted by noskilz

Thanks for the input. I've had success with eca in the past. What brand of ephedrine do you suggest? I used vasapro before it made me kinda shaky. As for the anavar I've seen a wide range of prices. How can you tell whether it's a superior product or overpriced?
Thanks for the help

PM me about ECA...Yes anavar is expensive but it is quality gains and you wanted speed right...It is one of the orals that won't put a lot of weight on you but still give added strength...

[big danny]

Originally Posted by noskilz

Should a liver protectant be taken with this cycle?
Thanks

I copied from Synthetek web site. I know for me it doing the job for years.
Synthergine™ is guaranteed to be the most potent liver conditioner/detoxifier
available in the world.
Synthergine™ is especially useful for conditions where
the liver gets stressed due to the toxicity of certain bodybuilding chemicals.

[chsirtopherjames123]

my advice on takin winstrol is anywhere between 30-50mg a day , tablets. shots are a different story. if you are to use shots, i would say do anywhere between 2 and 3 ml a week, of winstrol150mcg/ml. tablets, i would recommend eiehter ip. british dragon or british lab tabs, they are the best. to not e fake from a real tablet is a huge disparity amongst pills, so here is my advice rookie. take the yellow 30mg tabs or the pale blue 50 mg tabs, accordingly. if you come across a reb, purple or orange tab, they are most likely imitations. the tabs come as follows i believe, plae blue or white for a 50mg tab, a faded yellow in the shape of a hexagon or oval , and a pink or white tab in the shape of a square. any other kinds of tabs are most likely bogus, and if you anyone has any more questions just post back!

[noskilz]

Thanks for the response guys. I was looking at the Synthergine and noticed it comes in a 100 ml bottle(injectable?), but says to be taken orally. How do you administer this product? Also I ordered liv-52's and milk thistle. What do you think of those?Are they as effective?