Over 40, Male, orals...which are best????

gregs · #1 (**permalink**) 12-18-2004, 02:17 PM

OK, you experts...I am 42, in excellent health, and want to put on some lean, cut muscle, without too much excess weight. I am 5'10, and 180. Run, play tennis, and lift.

Is Andriol/Anavar the best for me? If so, what dosage?

Thanks!

rAJJIN · #2 (**permalink**) 12-18-2004, 02:24 PM

yes I would say anavar for what your looking for.

gregs · #3 (**permalink**) 12-18-2004, 03:39 PM

Any idea of the dosage of Andriol/Anavar?????

Big A · #4 (**permalink**) 12-19-2004, 01:55 AM

You didn't mentione whether you train. If you don't, what is the purpose for the gear? It won't work.

Anyway, Andriol and Anavar are two totally different drugs. Andriol is oral testosterone (hormone) which doesn't really work as the capsules have trouble disoving properly in the stomach.
Just a weekly injection will work much better.

Anavar is a highly anabolic oral (steroid) that works well in both men and women.

rAJJIN · #5 (**permalink**) 12-19-2004, 04:08 AM

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Originally posted by Big A
You didn't mentione whether you train. If you don't, what is the purpose for the gear? It won't work.

Anyway, Andriol and Anavar are two totally different drugs. Andriol is oral testosterone (hormone) which doesn't really work as the capsules have trouble disoving properly in the stomach.
Just a weekly injection will work much better.

Anavar is a highly anabolic oral (steroid) that works well in both men and women.

well he did say he lifts and wants to add some lean muscle ;)

rAJJIN · #6 (**permalink**) 12-19-2004, 04:12 AM

At 180 Id say start with 20mg a day of course with proper
nutrition,rest and training. From there you could work your way up a bit But Id see no reason to go over 40mg.

BigA is the man to listen to though... thats the nice thing here :)
sometimes you get a more direct answer from the big fella
then you may on promuscle/ goodluck with your goals.

gregs · #7 (**permalink**) 12-19-2004, 05:29 AM

Thanks!

I lift three times a week.

40mg of Andrial or Anavar? I read somewhere that you should combine the two...but you said Andro doesn't work, so just the Anavar?

rAJJIN · #8 (**permalink**) 12-19-2004, 05:50 AM

yes, just the anavar.
if your wanting testosterone the only effective way imo
is the injectables.

that 40mg btw was not the starting dose, Id say start at 20 and go up as needed from there untill you hit 40mg
Raj

Big A · #9 (**permalink**) 12-19-2004, 06:33 AM

Oops, missed that he aid that he lifts */

Andriol has to be at minimum 240mg/day (that's 6 capsules of 40mg each, taken separately throughout the day).

I agree with the Anavar dose.
You do know that if you only use an anabolic (Anavar) by itself without any androgens (like testosterone) you can have impotence problems, don't you?

Ivan · #10 (**permalink**) 12-25-2004, 04:35 AM

Look, var is great, but if you are gonna juice, do it right. What I mean is --- do what Raj said -- take some injectable test, maybe w/ a little EQ. Anavar is expensive as all hell, it works nicely if it is real, but if I were you I would check out Big A's Growth Principles for beginners found here: http://www.professionalmuscle.com/fo...8&page=1&pp=20

hammer_u2004 · #11 (**permalink**) 12-25-2004, 09:15 PM

At 43 I like to go with low dose test 400 to 600mg and tren.
Then go to test prop and tren add winny t-3 and clen. I always add test no boner problems!!! he he. Eq or Deca can replace tren
but the tren has the best results. Deca has the least side effects.
You can use Deca and tren but in low dose or it will covert into progestorone. Less severe gyno.:1book:

Also arimidex or nolvadex wont help. Some say winny helps ???

gregs · #12 (**permalink**) 12-27-2004, 06:56 AM

I guess did not make myself clear... I do not want to inject.
Therefore, I am looking for the best alternative in orals... I realise the gains will not be as great, but I will not inject.

Any recommendations?

Thanks again!

rAJJIN · #13 (**permalink**) 12-28-2004, 01:30 AM

Gregs,
heres something you may want to look into?

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/fo...&highlight=M1T

gregs · #14 (**permalink**) 12-28-2004, 10:08 AM

Did I mention that I live in Thailand?

NOt sure if helps or hurts my ability to get the orals....

Pittbull™ · #15 (**permalink**) 12-29-2004, 12:43 AM

You shouldn't have a problem getting stuff from Thailand.

I hope you're ok over there after the tsunami etc

Pittbull

gregs · #16 (**permalink**) 12-29-2004, 04:08 AM

Thanks, Pittbull!

Actually, we always go to Krabi (the hardest hit area in Thailand) this time of year, but canceled at the last second as our baby was not feeling well...Karma???

Pittbull™ · #17 (**permalink**) 12-31-2004, 02:31 AM

Well what ever it was you and your family are very lucky people.

All the bro's on this board will give you good advice and if they can't they'll point you in the right direction. Also for a load more info go and look at BigA's other board, www.professionalmuscle.com

Also have a look at doing a winny only oral cycle at 50mg a day for 6-8 weeks, you'll get some nice solid gains and stay lean, you'll also keep 90% of what you put on at winny dosen't have a profound affect on your HPTA.

All the best bro

gregs · #18 (**permalink**) 12-31-2004, 10:21 AM

Thanks!!!!!!

gregs · #19 (**permalink**) 12-31-2004, 11:07 AM

Hey! Have any of you guys heard of "Andriol"? How good would it be for a 42 year old wanting cut, lean muscle? I am only 5' 9" and getting old, so I don't need bulk. Lift, run, and like to play alot of tennis. Just want to get RIPPED!!!

I can get it easy here in Thailand, but no one here seems to know of Anavar or Winnie, or the other things I have heard are the best for someone like me.

Thanks!

rAJJIN · #20 (**permalink**) 12-31-2004, 02:54 PM

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Also have a look at doing a winny only oral cycle at 50mg a day for 6-8 weeks, you'll get some nice solid gains and stay lean, you'll also keep 90% of what you put on at winny dosen't have a profound affect on your HPTA.

All the best bro [/B]

Good advice.
anavar or winni yes, andriol no.:1book: