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Old 08-23-2003, 07:03 PM
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make gear from powders

gear from raw powder
few quick universal guidelines
generally 1 gram of powder/hormone will displace .75ml of volume when dissolved in a liquid. however this varies a bit but usually is not significant. eq comes to mind as well which is .85ml per gram.

to find out how to make a certain mg/ml concentration you need to do a few things:

lets say we want 300mg/ml and want 100ml total. and lets assume that 5%ba will keep this in solution.

obviously we will need the final volume to be 100ml

100ml x300mg in each ml
100x300=30,000mg total hormone used

1000mg=1g

30,000mg=30g

since 1g=.75ml then 30g=22.5ml


so now we want 100ml and know we need to add 30g hormone to achieve 300mg/ml. since 30g=22.5ml, we now have 77.5ml left to displace with something else.

now we need to add enough ba to achieve 5% of the total volume.

100ml x .05(.05=5%) =5ml ba

so we had 100ml total and subtracted 22.5ml to make room for the hormone, then subtract another 5ml to make room for the ba, which leaves us with 72.5ml. this is how much oil or pg etc... we will need to add.

to get to 100 total ml we use 30g hormone which is equall to 22.5ml
add 5ml ba
add 72.5ml oil

22.5+5+72.5=100


now everyone should be able to figure out how to make any mg/ml in any total amount of ml. if you still dont understand how to make 200mg/ml with 50ml total, or 150mg/ml in 75ml total, well god help you, you should give up

also keep in mind that an average 25mm sterile filter will keep about 1.5ml of oil in it. so for certain conversion methods you may need to compensate for this by adding an extra 1.5ml of oil. but not all methods of conversion will need to compensate. just wanted to bring that to everyones attention because for most people it will make a difference.


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Test Enanthate 5 gram conversion

Needed
5 grams test E
1ml benzyl alcohol = 5% BA
15.25 ml sesame oil
syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
mixing Vial
Sterile Vial
whatman sterile filter


1. Weigh out 5 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 20ml @ 250mg/ml



Test Enanthate 10 gram conversion

Needed
10 grams test E
2ml benzyl alcohol = 5% BA
30.5 ml sesame oil
syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
mixing Vial
Sterile Vial
whatman sterile filter


1. Weigh out 10 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 40ml @ 250mg/ml



Test Cypionate 5 gram conversion

Needed
5 grams test c
1ml benzyl alcohol = 5% BA
15.25 ml sesame oil
syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
mixing Vial
Sterile Vial
whatman sterile filter


1. Weigh out 5 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.


Makes 20ml @ 250mg/ml



Test Cypionate 10 gram conversion

Needed
10 grams test c
2ml benzyl alcohol = 5% BA
30.5 ml sesame oil
syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
mixing Vial
Sterile Vial
whatman sterile filter


1. Weigh out 10 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.


Makes 40ml @ 250mg/ml



Equipoise (EQ) for 5 grams of powder (eq is actually liquid at room temp.)

Needed
5 grams EQ
20.50 ml oil
.75 ml benzyl alcohol = 3% BA
syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
mixing Vial
Sterile Vial
whatman sterile filter


1. Weigh out 5 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 25ml @ 200mg/ml



Equipoise (EQ) for 10 grams of powder (eq is actually liquid at room temp.)

Needed
10 grams EQ
41 ml oil
1.5 ml benzyl alcohol = 3% BA
syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
mixing Vial
Sterile Vial
whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 10 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 50ml @ 200mg/ml

1 ml of EQ is 1.18 grams
Grams * 0.85 = ml of Bold Undec to use.

EQ is virtually idiot proof, so I would recommend making all of your product in one sitting if you have more than 5 or 10 grams of EQ, instead of trying to weigh out 5 or 10 grams of it.



Test Prop for 5 grams

Needed
5 grams powder
36.25 ml sesame oil
2.5ml benzyl alcohol = 5%
7.5ml Benzyl Benzoate =15%
syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
mixing Vial
Sterile Vial
whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 5 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA & BB to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 50 ml @ 100mg/ml



Test Prop for 10 grams

Needed
10 grams powder
72.5 ml sesame oil
5ml benzyl alcohol = 5%
15ml Benzyl Benzoate = 15%
syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
mixing Vial
Sterile Vial
whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 10 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA & BB to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 100 ml @ 100mg/ml

Deca for 5 grams

needed
5 grams powder
18.75ml sesame oil
1.25ml BA 5%
1.25ml BB 5%
syringes
Vial
Sterile Vial
whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 5 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA & BB to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 25 ml @ 200 mg/ml



Deca for 10 grams

needed
10 grams powder
37.5 ml sesame oil
2.5ml BA 5%
2.5ml BB 5%
syringes
Vial
Sterile Vial
whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 10 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA & BB to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 50 ml @ 200 mg/ml


Tren for 5 grams

Needed
5 grams tren powder
43.75 ml sesame oil
2.5 ml benzyl alcohol = 5%
syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
mixing Vial
Sterile Vial
whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 5 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 50 ml @ 100mg/ml



Tren for 10 grams

Needed
10 grams tren powder
84.5 ml sesame oil
5 ml benzyl alcohol = 5%
syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
mixing Vial
Sterile Vial
whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 10 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 100 ml @ 100mg/ml
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Old 08-23-2003, 09:26 PM
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hey bro goood info
on how to make prop
and tren

how about

durabolin powders

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bump,
good info in there.

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Durabolin (Nandrolone Phenylpropionate)

5 grams NPP
5ml BB
2.5ml BA
38ml oil

Put NPP is a vail, add BA,BB, & oil. Heat in water till powder dissolve. filter. Makes 100mg/ml 50ml.

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On these conversions listed, i see there is no 'bb' added to any of the solutions. Do you guys prefer to go only ba? Why not the addition of the bb?
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I would prefer bb in most of them personally.
Not to say just ba wouldnt work though.
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