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Old 07-29-2003, 01:08 AM
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D-boll conversion from powder.

I would rather make mine into an inj other then the capsules.
Heres my question, how hard is it to work with and how many
Mg per Ml can I get to hold, I noticed all the inj varieties are low in mg, 25mg per is the most ive seen.
ANy reason for this or can I make it 100mg per 1 ml,
using just the ba and bb same as i did the test propor wii i need one of the supersolvents??? KC, ursus, Excell?
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Old 07-29-2003, 02:42 AM
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rAJJIN just out of curiousity why don't you want to make your d-bol into an oral solution? It's so much easier and since it is 17aa it will work just the same. I have been successful in making an oral solution with Everclear and d-bol with one gram mixed with 50ml of everclear giving you a 20mg per ml. Just remember you cannot inject everclear!! The only way I have heard people being successful with an injectable is using PG to mix it up. I looked on a few of the other conversion boards and couldn't find anyone who posted a successful Inj d-bol mix.
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Old 07-29-2003, 02:46 AM
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It wil not work in oil at all.

you can have success with PG or even PEG.
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the half life would keep ya from injecting right? unless ya want to inject a couple of times a day? or woul dit be different when it is in a inj. instead of oil? i agree above. just mix with some high % alcohol everclear 151 etc. and inject into a grape where ya dont taste that nasty crap. works very good.
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Old 07-29-2003, 04:05 AM
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Kc tell me more.
I know it can and has been done I just neet to know how difficult its gonna be.
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Old 07-29-2003, 11:53 AM
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You can dissolve it in PG alone but PG hurts to inj.

You can get it into PEG but you would need our supermagic as a co-solvent to dissolve the powder initially. PEG still hurts because it does not prevent crystalization in the depot after inj. but it does not burn and iritate the area like PG.
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Old 07-29-2003, 12:01 PM
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can you make me a solution that is SAFE and will work for this?
some reasom my denkall -d-boll is pain free? i use it in the biceps with an insulin pin. Is it fake or do they just have the equipment and technology that us basement brewers just dont have access to? Are you suggesting as the others have just take it as an oral
also wile I have you here what about Oxymethelone (anadrol)? same problem or will it work out better?
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Old 07-29-2003, 12:04 PM
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the ref-B on the other hand Ive always noticed burned for sure
when injected. sorry for all the questions that probly seem silly
to you but Im just trying to get a basic understanding of this..
Thanks for all your time buddy.. and to the guy above that searched on the other forums for me.. THANK YOU as well..
I planned to do that myself but time is just not there the last few days. thanks to you all..
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Old 07-29-2003, 01:20 PM
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rAJJIN just out of curiousity why don't you want to make your d-bol into an oral solution? It's so much easier and since it is 17aa it will work just the same. I have been successful in making an oral solution with Everclear and d-bol with one gram mixed with 50ml of everclear giving you a 20mg per ml. Just remember you cannot inject everclear!! The only way I have heard people being successful with an injectable is using PG to mix it up. I looked on a few of the other conversion boards and couldn't find anyone who posted a successful Inj d-bol mix.

?) really, why prik yourself again when you don't have to, especially when you gota do it anyway with the test?
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Old 07-30-2003, 03:21 AM
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can you make me a solution that is SAFE and will work for this?
some reasom my denkall -d-boll is pain free? i use it in the biceps with an insulin pin. Is it fake or do they just have the equipment and technology that us basement brewers just dont have access to? Are you suggesting as the others have just take it as an oral
also wile I have you here what about Oxymethelone (anadrol)? same problem or will it work out better?
Our Standard easy kit will work for D-bol and wont cause near the irritation of a straight PG mix.
I personally dont see the use for a inj. d-bol just based on how often you would have to inj. to make most effective.

As far as what Denkall uses, I have no- idea. Why they can do it painfree does not have to do with technology, or equipment though. It really would have to do with using chemical combinations that may not be suitable or too controversial for human use.

There are quite a few co-solvents out there that prove to be very effective in solubilizing certain hormones but they have had studies linked to them that keep the FDA from approving them for human use.

Oxy on the other hand has considerably more solubility in oil than D-bol but not enough solubility that you can achieve higher than 50mg/ml ratios without using too high of a concentration of co-solvents.

Our Easy oil and Standard Easy will work for oxy at up to 50mg/ml.
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Old 07-30-2003, 04:25 AM
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Thanks buddy, I will be in touch soon for some kits..
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Old 07-30-2003, 05:15 AM
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you make a good point on the co-solvents some ug labs or
even mexican labs may use?? maybe thats the cause of the famous mexican flu?? realy just a bad reaction to the solvent not the actuall hormone. That makes me think that the solvents some
people or companys may use are far worse on a guy then the
steroid Hormone eh?

I trust you Kc as youve always been a GREAT help when Im in a jam with some of the best info..
all my kit bussiness will go thru- you just for this reason, not to mention the great high speed service youve provided us here.
I appreciate it all.
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Glad I could be of help.

And Yes I would say it is safe to assume that the problems with flu and the other things people commonly complain about has more to fo with the way the hormone is dissolved then the hormone itself. Either the process of dissolving or the chems used would cause the issues rather than the hormone in most cases.

If it were the hormone, then the majority of people would get sick from ALL steroids, and that is clearly not the case. Most people only get sick or have inj. site problems when they use cheap underground lab gear or use a SUPER HIGH dose.

Vet grade gear also causes some isuues with people because there are not anywhere near the same standards for product safety when it comes to animalls and humans. What is ok to inj. into an animal may not be so safe for a human.
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