Nolvadex alone or with Proviron?

[twistedneck]

I'm a newbee. I realize this would be baby steps for my first but it seems safe enough to get past my girlfriend w/o noticeable sides and THAT is the main goal. Any comments?

Anavar (w 1-3)
Nolva ED
Prov. ED

Have you guys ever had nolva or clom w/o a cycle? I've heard the Peter North rumors.. ROTFLMAO

Regards, TW

[yardrock]

Not only will there be on side affects, there will be NO AFFECTS. TW never heard of such a cycle. How did you come up with this protocol?? What are you trying to accomplish.

[twistedneck]

Hey Yardrock, thanks for the reply.

Originally I wanted to do a test/win/nolvadex and just go for it. Goal is increased strength to weight. But then the GF found out and its all sketchy now..

I'm worried about sides she can detect, mostly libido after cycle. Have a strong drive now and don't want to loose it. I've heard of doing this for weeks on end w/o probelms..


So this cycle is just too weak?

TW

[rAJJIN]

yardrock is rite, what the hell is that?
that is not a cycle and your not gonna gain much if anything.
Im not a big fan of orals, or nolvadex.

[Ivan]

To tell you the truth, this is a cycle I have seen in the past for women. And by that I will explain:

Anavar is a good choice for the girls, as they will not get much virilization (if any)
Proviron will make them hard and very sexually aggresive.
Nolvadex helps curb the actions of estrogen in her body, making her even harder.

I have seen this cycle many times with girls, but NEVER with a dude..LOl..

[twistedneck]

Good thing i didn't waste any cash.. thanks for the feedback. I've read that a lot of track athletes use long anavar cycles. too good to be true.
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[Ivan]

Look bro, there is nothing wrong with var...here is the deal with it though...for a man to really have worthwhile gains from var you need to do 30-50mg ED of it. However I would suggest this type of cycle for you if you are worried she might get on to you.



If I were you try this:

-Var 30-50mg ED
-test 500mgs a week
-arimidex on hand if needed
-clomid post cycle.

You will get good gains for sure, tell the woman you are starting a new diet (which you should) and then tell her you are gonna try to eat more protein than ever etc...

Run this cycle for 10-12 weeks.

[twistedneck]

Sounds awesome. Thanks for the ideas Ivan. I'm going to try some ethanate. Any special timing on the Var? like, should i skip the first or last weeks? I'll look it up.

Regards, TW