short cycle

bchap131 · #1 (**permalink**) 07-12-2003, 06:58 AM

I know most people advise against short cycles....but I want to stick to those from now on....I dont like being off for long periods of time and I never get any sides from a three or four week cycle.
My question is I am going to be running 35mg dbol ed and need something else to go with it. I wanted test prop but I am having trouble getting it right now. Is winny a decent choice for a short cycle? If so I have never used it before so how much should I run? Also for a short cycle would you up the dbol? Thanks

Got Juice · #2 (**permalink**) 07-12-2003, 09:03 AM

well you have to ask yourself what your goals are... why run winny with dbol??? one is used primarly for cutting while the other is mainly used during bulking. honestly use something that is going to be in and out quickly, since you are only going for 4 weeks, maybe some test suspension, or tren... use the cheap shit unless you are getting ready for a show, winny is too expensive and you wont grow as well off that as the dbol with a test base. again this is just my honest opinion.

just to let you know, i would reccomend 200mg winny per week, like mon/tues, thrs/fri... or somehow to split the dosage.

also, i have given up on orals completely, besides clen.. they just dont seem to work worth a shit for me, i have used 60mg/daily dbol and dont really notice anything, from size or strenght... however injectable anything my body loves. start at 35mg for the first week and maybe go up to 50mg if you feel you need to.

hope this helps,

GJ

slide · #3 (**permalink**) 07-12-2003, 01:59 PM

Yeah, if you cant get the prop right now and are itching to start, like GJ said, suspension or tren, or you could even try TNE, if youre into the Mr. Wizard thing....or just wait until you can pick up some prop.

GJ, damn no growing off of 60mg dbol? You just like the sticking part, huh +) I love me some dbol...

-slide

Got Juice · #4 (**permalink**) 07-12-2003, 07:36 PM

thats what i thought too, 60mg is a decent amount to get some growth.. btw, i have tried it probably 5-6 times and never have noticed anything, maybe the slightest thing, but to me if im not getting anything or even a tad, its not worth it..

yeah, i do love hitting the triceps with some oil, man thats such a nice feeling.... haha

Take care,

GJ

fitchy850 · #5 (**permalink**) 07-12-2003, 10:24 PM

Inj Dboll is tha way to go, tabs take to long to hit tha blood stream...............If you have a choice right now I might would run (300mg-500mg)of deca a week, along with the 35mg of dboll. Since ure not wantin to run but 4 weeks with it.

Just an opinion

riv · #6 (**permalink**) 07-13-2003, 04:04 AM

your telling him to hit up deca in a short 4 week cycle? it would barley be kicking in by the time he stops.

fitchy850 · #7 (**permalink**) 07-13-2003, 10:25 PM

tru thought he was already takin somethin.........riv is right

riv · #8 (**permalink**) 07-14-2003, 12:27 AM

oh yeah and for the dbol and winny ... i wouldnt run them together. go with what got juice and slide said. and many guys around here use 50mg dbol, but i wouldnt do that with such a short cycle because you will crash hard esp. if you take susp or prop cuz they dont stay in your system that long. if your still gonna stay with the short 4-6 wk cycle just stick with susp, prop, TNE or maybe even fina and winny if your looking to cut. just try to research more on short stacks, and look into longer ones.

Riv

twistedneck · #9 (**permalink**) 08-02-2003, 04:00 AM

Hey bchap131 I thought about this short cycle too.

With a short test cycle is there any point in combining the propionate with suspension? I was going to do stanozol eod 100mg.. all for 3 or 4 weeks.

I'm a little worried cause i've heard suspension is bad for sides, should i just do more prop? Suspension sounds awesome (like a poor mans halo or tren)

I'd be running letro, proviron and nolva at the same time.. finishing up w/ just letrozole and nolva.

TW.