Baking Temp. of fina...

Bigbadasian · #1 (**permalink**) 10-29-2001, 07:13 AM

|---[\\\\\]>-------- Ok, sat. nite i cut my tren dose back to 1cc from 2cc's. I cut back b/c i was feeling soooo sick after inj. that i thought 1cc would be better. Nope, today i still felt weak and achey all over the body like i was coming down with the flu. S'one suggested to me taht i bake it to make sure all the impurities were out. Anyone ever bake their Tren.? I want to do it b4 i give up entirely. What is the temp.? How long did you bake it for?

testalot · #2 (**permalink**) 10-29-2001, 08:16 AM

can't remember the exact temp. but, throw it in for 10 miutes, out for 10, in for 10, out to cool. i have left in for a 1/2 hour. as long as the stopper doesnt darken from ovening, you cool.

use a syringe filter. it's easier, better.

Cold Fusion · #3 (**permalink**) 10-29-2001, 08:49 AM

200-250F Max for 15-20 mins is generally the rule of thumb that I have seen. Some even bake 20 mins, out to cool, and bake 20 mins one more time.

BTW, is this home brew or Ttokkyo Tren?

Cold Fusion

testalot · #4 (**permalink**) 10-29-2001, 09:19 AM

i hope home brewed, ttokkyo is ripping people off with that price. and from what i here they use pellets as well. i doubt it, but thats what the word is!

sust251 · #5 (**permalink**) 10-29-2001, 12:05 PM

Well, it is possible some of the solvent is in your tren batch. The solvent of choice is acetone. This is pretty mean stuff and affects the central nervous system. But the good news is it is essay to flash this stuff off. Acetones atmospheric boiling temp is 56.5C (133F). When I say atmospheric I mean don’t let your vial pressurize, keep a 20gauge needle tip thru the stopper. You may detect a mint like solvent odor emanating from the needle, indicating the presence of acetone. It theory you could hold a match above the needle and the vaporized acetone should ignite. It’s hard to say what impurities you have in their BBA, a lot of people us “a” kits that include the “magic ingredient” and who knows what that is. Good luck

sust251

Cold Fusion · #6 (**permalink**) 10-29-2001, 01:10 PM

Sust is right about the boiling point of acetone; however, I have an gas burning stove and the first setting on it is 200 F; therefore, this would be where it goes....LOL.

Also, I would not be concerned with low minute bakes at 200 F because nearly everyone does this with both fina as well as IP gear. Of course, with IP they are trying to bake off some of the benzyl alcohol, which has a boiling point of 205 F.

Anyway, after all that.......just set it at your lowest stove setting and bake. :)

Of course, as sust mentioned, a needle through the stopper is necessary or you are not geting rid of anything.

Cold Fusion

Bigbadasian · #7 (**permalink**) 10-29-2001, 07:45 PM

|---[\\\\\]>--------- We got some wicked smart ppl in here..thanks for the info. I think i'll bake it for 20, cool for 20 and bake again...prob. at 225degs. b/c that is in the mid. of what the concensus says...wish me luck!

xcelbeyond · #8 (**permalink**) 10-30-2001, 04:10 AM

Here is how I baked mine:

Preheat oven to 250. Place Fina on cookie sheet and bake for 15 minutes. Remove and let stand for 10 minutes. Repeat this process two more times.

Did you use an "A" kit?

xcelbeyond

Bigbadasian · #9 (**permalink**) 10-30-2001, 06:13 AM

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xcelbeyond · #10 (**permalink**) 10-30-2001, 01:47 PM

BBA,

I know you're not going to want to hear this \./ . Over at another board there are plenty of posts from vets that get the same reaction to Fina (flu-like symptoms) =').

Some just gut-it out and others break (figure it really is flu) and re-start after feeling better.

xcelbeyond

testalot · #11 (**permalink**) 10-30-2001, 06:32 PM

good luck my friend, i hope you feel well. there are some real smart guys in here......................

Cold Fusion · #12 (**permalink**) 10-30-2001, 09:56 PM

Well, I am starting to feel good, as I get no adverse effects from Fina. No bad taste in the back of my throat, no flu like symptoms, etc....

Some of us are just lucky I guess. :) And, of course, with BBA's luck he would be one of the people that gets all the adverse effects! LOL. Sorry, BBA, but I remember your jeep story and the luck that followed.

Cold Fusion

gethard1 · #13 (**permalink**) 10-30-2001, 11:42 PM

using 4000mg of time released vit C and cranberry extract and the fluish feeling slowly went away, without lower my dosage.

Bigbadasian · #14 (**permalink**) 10-31-2001, 08:20 AM

|---[\\\\]>--------- Well, i'm going to give it one more shot! But friday...after i work b/c i have the whole weekend to lay in bed if i do feel ill again. I am going to bake it AND fitler it i think...i hope i still have the 18g needle! I do have the worst luck...many ppl don't get lumps from GH...but who did! YEP...Bad luck BBA did!

Animal · #15 (**permalink**) 11-02-2001, 02:06 PM

There is no methanol or ether or acetone or EA or IA in anything I've ever seen in A's kits.

BTW, if acetone is soluble in something else, your attempt to 'flash' it off will not work.

Anyhow, it is not uncommon to get those flu symptoms with trenbolone and even other AS.

has nothing to do with what it's dissolved in.

Bigbadasian · #16 (**permalink**) 11-03-2001, 10:54 AM

|---[\\\\]>------ Yeah, i don't think it's the kits...i used the same exact kit as i did the last time i took tren. My body is just not taking it in as easy as last...here is the final plan. I'm going to boil H20, set the vial inside for a couple of mins. to get the viscosity(sp) down, then i'm going to run it through a filter. Hope it helps...

sust251 · #17 (**permalink**) 11-06-2001, 06:29 AM

"BTW, if acetone is soluble in something else, your attempt to 'flash' it off will not work. "

You lost me Animal, why do you say you can’t flash of the acetone solvent? This is the simple cracking process. The acetone is only used as the solvent to dissolve the tren in the filtration process of extracting the tren from the pellets. It someone was careless it is possible there could be some acetone remaining behind after the introduction of the oil base. The only way I could see the acetone not flashing of at it’s atmospheric boiling point is if it had reacted with something to form a new molecule with new chemical characteristics.

sust251

gethard1 · #18 (**permalink**) 11-06-2001, 11:37 AM

I get a "magic solution" taste in my moutn while injecting or shortly after, is that acetone???????

Freez · #19 (**permalink**) 11-06-2001, 07:42 PM

Two things. . .

1. The boiling point of benzyl alcohol is 205 C. Somewhere around 400 F.

2. The solvent of choice for Fina is NOT acetone. Yes acetone is effective in making a crystalized form after acetone is evaporated off. But, benzyl alcohol is the most common solvent for conversion of pellets into inj. Tren.

No offence. Just tring to keep someone from inj. acetone. Peace. Freez.

gethard1 · #20 (**permalink**) 11-06-2001, 07:54 PM

wondering what the taste was and I was sure it wasn't fina

testalot · #21 (**permalink**) 11-06-2001, 08:04 PM

when i inject tren, i only taste tren, the alcohol taste is present, but it always is.

FRKNHUGE · #22 (**permalink**) 11-08-2001, 07:57 AM

i do a double boil setup, place one pan w/ water undera nuther pan with water, place my jug in it
set to low boil for 15 mins, the " pop" the top
makes the house smell like shit, lol
i do this 2 times and its all good, this way there is no way for the jug to break as u dont get the temp up too high

frk

testalot · #23 (**permalink**) 11-08-2001, 08:03 AM

how do you know you are getting the tempurature high enough? or not too high? for sterilization it needs to ne a certain temp, and at a high enough temp, your gear is shit.

so are you doing this to sterilize it? or break the pellets down. if you are checking the temp some how, i agree, your way sounds great.

xcelbeyond · #24 (**permalink**) 11-08-2001, 08:11 AM

I use an oven thermometer. Pre-heat oven and watch temperature. I watch when I'm baking as well. If temperature goes up too high I open oven door.

When you preheat oven and let it go through a cycle, you'll know approximately how much to compensate/adjust the oven dial to get temperature you're shooting for. My oven has to go through at least two cycles before temperature stabilizes. =.)

xcelbeyond =/