very 1st cycle...help??!?

[dotcom]

Stats: 22yrs, 175lbs..new to this.

I have been reading around and all of you are very educated on topics and I've learned alot just from reading what ya'll have written...so tell me if I'm getting there.

I just started cycling deca (2ml. 100mgs/cc., yellow tops) @ 400mg. a week 2 weeks ago. After reading what yall have written I've placed an order for some Dbol and test....I also put an order in for sustanon. Am I on track? Also ordering Chrysin to help prevent aromatizing. My questions so far are.....

1. Dbol....how much at a time?
2. Test/Sustanon...same thing? but which would you use?
3. How much of Test/Sustanon at a time?
4. I'm also taking creatine, NO2 and ALOT of other supplements which I was on prior to the cycle...Will this effect anything or should I cycle off creatine and get back on after my cycle?

Thanks for yalls help..you guys :kickass:


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[slide]

First question..how is your diet?

1. dbol, you could start @ 25-30mg ED.

2. Sustanon is a test blend.

3. If you ordered sust, then probably 500mg wk (give/take).

4. I wouldnt spend money on some of that crap. Youd be better off spending your money on food as you need to eat to grow.

:1book: :1book: :1book:

-slide

[rAJJIN]

ok for a first time cycle heres my advice.
Dont get the sustanon, get some test Cypionate or Enanthate.
Organon`s kick ass so your rite on there with the deca an doses.
run your test at 500-750 mg per week. with the cyp or enanthate
youll just need 1 shot per week of however many Mg`s you decide on. Same for deca, one shot a week.
d-bol i would take 25-50 mg ED,

test deca and d-boll is a GREAT cycle for adding some M.Mass.
as far as the anti-e Honestly myself Ive never used them.
Gyno nor water have not been a problem of mine and Ive done some madd doses before. I think anti`es are over used in some cases, if your not prone to gyno. I always keep some Nolvadex
around incase but have never had to use it.
If you are gonna run one throughout I would recommend Proviron.

crteratine and other supplements will be fine to use,
but after you try these real supplements youll soon realize
Damn testosterone is cheaper to run then creatine, lol

EAT BIG , sleep good
and train like a madman on steroids, an you will GROW.
Goodluck to you,
rAJJIN

[biotec]

Very good reply rajjin U hit everything on the nose..
The only thing i'm adding in here is my first cycle.
I did 500mg sust. amps 400mg deca yellow tops and 30mg d-ball i had great gains but the only thing i did wrong was post therapy recovery.
Get that down pat and you'll be able to keep a large part of you're gains.....
Enjoy i know i did....lol....
Biotec...;)

[redlion]

Only one thing to add here
Split up the shots of sus I do 250 mon and 250 thurs.... Do not go below 500 week.... Diet in Check...... Eat clean Bro... I take Armidex .25mg thought cycle and then start clomid 3 weeks after last test shot..... I like to add Primo to at the end at 200week... If you can find real Primo...... This should not f up test production....... Good Luck

[Ivan]

1 thing to add here as well; the Chrysin will not help out bro, I know the guy at GNC sweats by it as an anti-E, but if you are worried about gyno, I would do what rAJJIN said.

[dotcom]

Thanks alot for the replies..-Slide: I eat around 6 meals a day..my diet is close to a 60%protein,30%carb,10%fats..Food is free and open 24hrs here with hard boiled eggs always on the menu..but I guess its not about how much you can eat but how well you can eat right. -rAJJIN: I shoulda checked the messages alittle earlier...I guess I'll just hold on to this sust. for a while.lol. As for the testosterone being cheaper to run than creatine..umm..you must have it good. -BIOTEC: post therapy recovery? how so? -Redlion: I have about no clue what you're talking about with armidex and clomid and primo...I'll try reading up into that stuff tho. thanks. -Ivan: I wasn't sure about the Chrysin either..I ordered it but if nothing happens I won't continue with it. Thanks alot for yalls help. much appreciated.

[biotec]

This is what i do for post therapy recovery.
First i start 2 weeks before my last shot of juice with 20mg nolvadex and 25mg Proviron ed.
Second if you're using fast acting esters at the end of you're cycle which i recomend so you can start HCG ASAP.I normally start HCG 2 weeks after i start nolva and proviron.
I take 2500iu HCG eod for 2 weeks. Thats 4 shot a week(U need 2 10,000iu kits) After thats done i start clomid @ 50mg ed for 2 weeks along with the nolva. and proviron.
After the clomid is done stop everything for 8 weeks then i do it again for 6 months... :)
Personally i would recomend doing this with every cycle no matter how long,I have had very good results with this method....../t\

[rAJJIN]

good info biotec, I like that threory.
I need to swell my ole boys back up, lol
I may give that a try.

[dotcom]

-Biotec: geez..I got alot of studying to do. I guess maybe I should just take make a list and go shopping myself. I'm really tempted to break the rules of this forum and ask exactly where you guys get all this stuff..but I'm not gonna. They just need to legalize all this and get it over with. Thanks for your help....seems I have more things to try and find. Thanks again!!

[rAJJIN]

stick around get your posts up, make some friends, then people will lead you in the rite direction... were all here for the same reason.