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Old 05-15-2003, 07:44 AM
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Question clomid necesary???

i am about 2 weeks from the end of my sust250 cycle. i have had no side effects at all really, maybe a set of sensitive nipples, but other that i've been totally fine.

is it needed that i take clomid afterwards of is this only if i need it? any opinions on that?
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Old 05-15-2003, 08:14 PM
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the clomid is more for helping jumpstart the ol gonads, then it is for combating gyno. nolva is the better gyno combatant. some dont use clomid post cycle and others do. im one of the ones that do...it seems the boys bounce back a lil quicker with the clomid and every lil bit helps .
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Old 05-16-2003, 04:50 AM
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yes, you need it I would also say need time get some Hcg.

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Old 05-16-2003, 02:12 PM
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Re: Clomid

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Originally posted by tmax
yes, you need it I would also say need time get some Hcg.

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I have to agree with tmax U need clomid and HCG post therapy.
Otherwise U could be waiting for awhile on the balls getting back to normal....
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Old 05-16-2003, 07:50 PM
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Start clomid therapy 3 weeks after your last SUS 250 shot. Rmemeber there are long and fast acting esters, so 3 weeks shouldgive it time to get out of your system...

YES YOU NEED CLOMID!!!!
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Old 06-05-2003, 08:07 AM
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If you want to keep your hard earnt gains and not "crash" after your cycle, yes you sure do need clomid.
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Old 06-05-2003, 11:07 AM
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well Im gonna go the other way here and say No.
As short as your cycle was and the low doses you took
Id say there is no need. Save `em for next time.
not gonna lose his hard earned gains because if i remember rite
he didnt gain much size just some strength.
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Old 06-08-2003, 06:25 PM
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I got the same thing going on right now about clomid...I'm on week 7 of a 400mg/wk deca, 250mg/4days sust. cycle...I've put on close to 25lbs..I started my clomid @ 100mg. ED on week 6 thru week 8..after week 8 bump down to 50mg. ED for 21 days....Anything wrong with this?
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Old 06-08-2003, 06:56 PM
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I got the same thing going on right now about clomid...I'm on week 7 of a 400mg/wk deca, 250mg/4days sust. cycle...I've put on close to 25lbs..I started my clomid @ 100mg. ED on week 6 thru week 8..after week 8 bump down to 50mg. ED for 21 days....Anything wrong with this?
Ive used this as a guideline...

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/fo...&threadid=1172

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I guess I missed out on some info
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Old 06-08-2003, 07:03 PM
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I guess I missed out on some info

becuase I can't find the info on how long your cycle was, but gathering from what rAJJIN said, I assume your cycle was a small one. Personally I am a big beliver that no matter the length of your cycle you should always use nolvadex / arimidex and clomid for your post cycle ancillary therapy in order to help suspend gains and avoid the catabolic rebound your body would go through after it metabolized your last injection od sustanon and your test levels began to drop.

With sustanon the timing of taking clomid becomes much tougher becuase of the 4 component ester makeup of the compound. There have been many debates on the best way to utilize clomid after a sustanon cycle. Some people advocate taking it 2 weeks after your last injection so that you test levels never get a chance to drop, where as others advocate taking it the last week of your cycle and continue 2 weeks after with concurrent 5-10,000iu injections of HCG. Which way works the best? Theroetically taking clomid 2 weeks after you last injection with sustanon would seem the most logical, thereby using the nolvadex to keep estrogen levels in check while the sustanon is metabolized. Like I stated before the problem is the timing and theoretical applications do not always work in bodybuilding. Our sport s more of a trial and error as everybody reacts differently.

I would have to agree in this case with the two weeks after the last injection of sustanon to begin clomid therapy. In between I would use the nolvadex at 20mgs per day or arimidex at 1mg EOC to keep estrogn levels in check so that you avoid catabolism. It may work for and it may not. It is a trial and error game. The only solace is that when you take the clomid it will restart your LH to produce natural testosterone. This probably didn't help worth a damn but in these typs of questions there really is no right answer as a couple of the methods discussed here have all had success. Finding the one that works for you is the key.

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|--[\\\\]>---------- For me, clomid works, but damn do i break out from it! i have found that if i use arimidex, it helps, the only dif. is i use armidex throughout my whole cycle and post as well.
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Old 06-16-2003, 01:39 PM
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How long after a dianabol cycle would i have to start clomid ?
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