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Old 05-12-2003, 08:26 PM
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First time user..I need help!!

I have a few questions I would like to be answered.First of all i'm
32 yrs old and been training for the first time for about 5 months now.I weigh 183lbs and currently at 16%bf.What are the safest
steroids i can use(oral if possible..if not injection) to aid me in getting down at 9%bf and gain mass at the same time(If you do the division 9%bf would mean about 165lbs without help...too small for me).I would like to hit 175 lbs (quality muscle).Is dianabol good..I hear you retain a lot of water.Anyways, I would sure appreciate some comments.
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Old 05-12-2003, 09:48 PM
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You should read up, there are a bunch of great websites that can give you answers to your basic questions.

You will get 1000 different answers to your question, unless you make it more specific.
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Old 05-13-2003, 01:20 AM
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If I were you, this is what I would do:

I would begin a very disciplined diet, strict on losing a lot of bf. Get the Bf under control, maybe around 9 - 10 % THEN look into cycling. Perhaps take a cycle like this:

GH 6iu a day
T-3 25 mcg ED
Test 500 mgs a week
EQ 4 - 600mg a week
Maybe some anavar at 30mg ED
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Old 05-13-2003, 07:58 AM
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If I were you, this is what I would do:

I would begin a very disciplined diet, strict on losing a lot of bf. Get the Bf under control, maybe around 9 - 10 % THEN look into cycling. Perhaps take a cycle like this:

GH 6iu a day
T-3 25 mcg ED
Test 500 mgs a week
EQ 4 - 600mg a week
Maybe some anavar at 30mg ED
this is what you recommend for a guy thats been training five months and never touched the juice?

I agree with the first part..get your diet and training together...
no drugs will work without those in place..
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Old 05-13-2003, 11:36 AM
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I figured at age 32, his test levels would begin to drop (maybe older I dunno) and he could use the benefects of test and GH; and the particular anabolics I mentioned were relatively safe.

I agree with making sure you have your diet and training together.
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Old 05-13-2003, 09:16 PM
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I figured at age 32, his test levels would begin to drop (maybe older I dunno) and he could use the benefects of test and GH; and the particular anabolics I mentioned were relatively safe.

I agree with making sure you have your diet and training together.

I`m with ya ivan,I just think he could benefit from one or two items like test,eq or test,anavar...being his first cycle..rather then starting out with the whole ball of wax..I guess what I`m saying is if you start out with everything theres not much left to try...
the reason I didn`t prescribe anything before is with only five months training I don`t think he has exausted his natural potential.......to early.....
I say this because I started working out at thirty and I gained pretty good for the first two years,naturally.
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Old 05-13-2003, 10:26 PM
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Good point Bronson
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