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Old 05-11-2003, 03:10 PM
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I just ordered 25g of prop and boldbase outa china, are you gonna be able to guide me through it? only thing ive converted is tren,, will it be
the same type of process or is it more difficult?
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Old 05-11-2003, 07:15 PM
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im be interested if u posted the guided steps, because im about to do the same thing only with enat
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Old 05-11-2003, 07:34 PM
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here ya go

compliments of basskiller

Making your own gear from powders

Information Bulletin - The use of Powder steroids

First of all, on the virtues of powdered steroids : You may be a little weary
about ordering raw materials for steroids instead of ready-made tabs, amps or
vials, but we will put your mind at ease in a minute here. Contemplate the
benefits of powders :

1.The cost is only 40-60% of the normal cost
2.They take only a short time to prepare
3.They are easier and cheaper to ship than amps or vials
4.Less chance of your order getting seized by customs
5.Unlike vials and amps, they come with a refund/reship policy

PREPARING THE POWDERS FOR ORAL USE

This is really only applicable to the 17AA steroids OXandrolone, Stanabol and
Anabol. These are the only ones that are orally available. In principle the
boldenone undecylenate oil can be taken orally, but daily doses of 200 mg are
required, which is basically a waste of money, if a 400 mg per week injection
can achieve the same.

Pick up some sesame oil at the health store and find a container for the liquid.
Determine the concentration. For Stanabol I recommend 25 mg/ml, for Anabol and
Oxandrolone I suggest 20 mg/ml. Say you have 1 gram of Anabol. That's 1000 mg.
At 20 mg per ml that equates to
50 ml of oil. So for every gram of powder you have you will make 50 ml of
solution. Fill the container up with water, 50 ml per gram. If you have 5 grams,
then that's 250 ml. Mark that spot on the container. Dump out the water and let
the container dry. Dump the powder in the container and then add oil until you
reach the mark you made on the container. You know have your solution at 20
mg/ml.

I suggest taking 2 ml per day (40 mg) in the morning. Use a syringe to measure
out 2 ml and squirt it in your mouth, wash it down with the beverage of your
choice. Remember to never use a 17AA steroid longer than 6, at the very longest
8 weeks on end, because these substances are toxic to the liver.

Remember that you need 50 ml per gram of powder for ox and anabol and 40 ml for
stanabol. This does not mean 50 and 40 ml of oil, it means 50 or 40 ml of oil,
minus the space the powder takes up.

PREPARING THE POWDERS FOR INJECTABLE USE

These things can be quite confusing, so since testosterone enanthate and
boldenone undecylenate come pre-packaged per 5 grams, I will detail the
conversion for both for 5 grams, so you can copy the method exactly.

Testosterone enanthate :

You will need benzyl alcohol, syringes, a container that will hold 20 ml and oil
(arachis or sesame oil). Because we will inject this, the oil needs to be
sterile. To sterilize it heat the oil to 212 degrees F (100 degrees C). In the
mean time use a syringe to fill your container with EXACTLY 20 ml of pure water.
Mark the container at the water level. use the syringe to take out 0.6 ml and
make another mark. Your container is now marked at 19.4 ml and 20 ml. Dump out
the water and let the container dry. let the oil cool off.

Dump the powder (5 g) in the container, add oil until it reaches the 19.4 ml
mark. Then add benzyl alcohol until it reaches the 20 ml mark.
read the bottom update
Seal your
container and shake it well. You are now ready to use the product. It is a
testosterone enanthate solution at 250 mg/ml. I suggest a weekly injection of 2
ml (500 mg) for a period of 10 weeks. At this rate the product will last you
exactly 10 weeks.

Boldenone Undecylenate (Equipoise)

You will need benzyl alcohol, syringes, a container that will hold 25 ml and oil
(arachis or sesame oil). Because we will inject this, the oil needs to be
sterile. To sterilize it heat the oil to 212 degrees F (100 degrees C). In the
mean time use a syringe to fill your container with EXACTLY 25 ml of pure water.
Mark the container at the water level. use the syringe to take out 0.8 ml and
make another mark. Your container is now marked at 24.2 ml and 25 ml. Dump out
the water and let the container dry. let the oil cool off.

Dump the boldenone oil (5 g) in the container, add oil until it reaches the 24.2
ml mark. Then add benzyl alcohol until it reaches the 25 ml mark. Seal your
container and shake it well. You are now ready to use the product. It is a
boldenone undecylenate solution at 200 mg/ml. I suggest a weekly injection of 2
ml (400 mg) for a period of 10-12 weeks. At this rate the product will last you
12.5 weeks.

17AA steroids : Oxandrolone, Anabol and Stanabol

You will need purified water, benzyl alcohol, syringes and a container that
holds 40 ml for every gram of powder you have. The water needs to be pure and
sterile because it will need to be injected. First fill up your container to the
desired level of water (40 ml per gram of powder) and make a mark. Then use the
syringe to remove 1 ml per gram of powder you have and make another mark. Let
the container dry. Dump the powder in the container and fill up with sterile
water up to the lowest mark. Then add benzyl alcohol to the highest mark. Seal
the container and shake well. The powder should sink to the bottom if left
unshaken. Make sure you shake prior to each use. I suggest using 2 ml DAILY
injections for a period of 8 weeks.

Some people believe that water-based steroids can provide local growth, ie
muscle growth in the muscle it is injected into. If you are such a person, these
products would do the trick. to learn how to spot inject, visit
spotinjections.com.

Just so that you all know, I did not write this, Just posted it...

UPDATE.. I think that it is better to add your powder to the BA first and let it disolve somewhat first before adding the oil! then heat the mixture up as to dissolve it further. It seem to work out better this way...
Plus You may find the littlest bit of gunk afterwards.. (because at best the powders are 99% pure....
Then move on to the filtering!
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Old 05-11-2003, 07:35 PM
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and a little more to make sure ya dose it right

Got this from imgunn @ MM. Very cool figures out how much oil, ba, etc. you need for powder conversions.

i was messing around with some calculations and got pissed off about the math, so i wrote a web page to do it for you.

Instructions :

1. enter the oil ml's you want. so 100ml = 100..... enter 100

2. enter the mg to ml required. so 300mg/ml = 300... enter 300

3. powder weight, set at .75.... change if you want

4.Total ba concentration.. so 5% = 0.05... enter 0.05

As you enter the numbers it will automatically do the calculations, you dont have to press buttons etc...

Be aware that you must finish entering all data before the calculations are finished and correct.

***Also Note*** in the ba field i have put 5 instead of 0.05 many times, so that is something you have to be aware of.

Ok so here is a walk thru example, numbers correspond to the boxes with numbers next to them.

I want to make 100ml of oil, with 300mg/ml dosage and 5% ba (same as superchicken's example)

So i enter :

(1) 100
(2) 300
(powder weght) .75
(3) 0.05

And the results will be :
(4) 72.50 - this is oil in ml's needed
(5) 30.00 - this is amount of powder in grams needed
(6)5.00 - this is amount of ba in ml's needed


I have included 2 files in the zip archive : a html web page that you can just double click and a text file.

For the text file all you have to do is save it and open it with your web browser.

Here is the file :
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|--[\\\\]>-------- Some great info super..thanks.
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hey bro if that's boldenone without an ester, it will be a bitch to get into solution . mabey not so bad with the new super solvents, but with ba and bb it is hard to get it even at 50mg/ml
the prop is easy at 100 mg/ml though

or so i've heard /t\
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Old 05-12-2003, 02:34 PM
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hey bro if that's boldenone without an ester, it will be a bitch to get into solution . mabey not so bad with the new super solvents, but with ba and bb it is hard to get it even at 50mg/ml
the prop is easy at 100 mg/ml though

or so i've heard /t\

GOOD EYE!!!! i didnt catch that--yep rajjin the highest base dose i have seen is 75mg/ml
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Damn Im gonna see if i can get it traded out for undecyclanate.
Kaotic just e-mailed and told me the same thing. hopefully its not sent yet. Thanks for the help guys`
and Timebomb you have a pm bro
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good info superman
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I just wanted to drop in on this thread and let everyone know that we are more than willing to help out with any questions about experimentation with solutions that anyone has.

Just shoot us an email and we will be more than happy to help.
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Originally posted by KAOTIKCHEM
I just wanted to drop in on this thread and let everyone know that we are more than willing to help out with any questions about experimentation with solutions that anyone has.

Just shoot us an email and we will be more than happy to help.

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Old 06-09-2003, 01:41 AM
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Conversion is complete.
EQ was simple as can be, the prop was real simmilar to
tren conversion minus the cofee filter step. I just used the
ba and bb as my solution dumped powder in. At first i was worried as the powder just kind swelled up and didnt look as if it would dissolve in the solution. I swirled for 10 mins, still no luck
so I heated a pan of water put it in the hot water for a few mins at a time and it dissolved rite up.
Like to give thanks to
KC,
superman,
tB,
And superchicken. (read all kinds of his info, smart guy on conversions)

Now Im curious to see the results from "Raw grades"
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Old 06-09-2003, 01:51 AM
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maybe i should buy me a crimper and have made some nice labels and inserts and start a new "lab" lol
ohh wait, did someone already think of that?
let me tell ya it would be very easy to get oil happy or
put in a cheaper hormone. Make sure you TRUST your source 100% if your gonna buy bootlegger Homebrews.
remember ole MK trying to pass off tren as Masteron?
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