Newbie - Where do I start - Steriod Q's

Nick007 · #1 (**permalink**) 04-16-2003, 12:21 PM

Hi all,

Im actually considering doing a cycle but i have no idea of the differnt steriods or whether to take an oral form or an injection. Im also looking at cost factors when starting my first cycle! Which steriod would u guys recommend as a start - that has the least side effects and good results???

Thanks
Nick

SoCo4Fun · #2 (**permalink**) 04-16-2003, 06:21 PM

When doing your first cycle try and stay with one compound. You could take 250mg test enanthate or cyp for 8 weeks and see how you react. Then later on down the road start stacking compounds.

Nick007 · #3 (**permalink**) 04-16-2003, 11:49 PM

cool thanks....does test have any major side effects? and what about crashing when coming off?

rAJJIN · #4 (**permalink**) 04-16-2003, 11:56 PM

get ya some good ole T-200
its cheap, always available and although underdosed
its still a good bargain.

Dr_Diabolical · #5 (**permalink**) 04-17-2003, 05:29 PM

research bro, research

are you willing to put stuff in your body without knowing all side effects?

haze324 · #6 (**permalink**) 04-17-2003, 06:40 PM

Hey man, its going to be hard to find ONE article that has all your questions in detail, just read around the different boards and remember most of these guys are advanced bodybuilders and not everything will apply to you.

Try going to the ProMuscle board and go to the Articles section. BIG A wrote a good artilce on Growth Principles for Beginers. It might still be a little ahead of you but will defiently get you on the right track. hope this helps
HZ.

Daveb19 · #7 (**permalink**) 04-18-2003, 01:57 AM

instead of suggesting a substance I suggest research, learn the basics first, some good sites for begginers www.steroids.com, www.steroidtips.com after covering all the info on those 2 you will have a basic understanding of all gear, potential side effects, cycling, price, ect.... do your research tho, its the dumb asses who dont who fucked the rep of this sport.

Nick007 · #8 (**permalink**) 04-18-2003, 07:20 PM

ok cool,

I'll reseach the use of steriods more! I was just wondering if you guys...from experience...would be able to let me in on how u started...and whats the best roid to try on the first try...and what side effects to watch out for!

will take ur guys advice ..thanks!

Cheers
Nick

slide · #9 (**permalink**) 04-18-2003, 11:50 PM

I'd say I started due to lack of patience and wanted to see an "instant" change in my appearance. Of course, you need to make sure you diet is locked on first and foremost.

As far as best, I don't think you could go wrong with test on a first go around.

Best of luck and do some research...and ask questions! :1book:

-slide

bumpo · #10 (**permalink**) 04-19-2003, 12:31 AM

I sound liek a broken recored but go research, I spend 4 months reading before I even started and made a lot of mistakes.

research!!!

Nick007 · #11 (**permalink**) 04-24-2003, 08:30 AM

Ok will reseach as much as possible! Was just wondering ...from your guys experiences...since u have tried and tested most of these roids.....which do u think has the least side effects and the best results??

by the way....a friend of mine recommended that (normal nutrition question) I try Cell-Tech instead of regular creatine! I mean ive used creatine before...and like in 2 weeks my weight shot up from 62kg to 72Kg ..and boy was i stoaked! but when i got off the stuff....i lost all my new found mass!so thats why i was bitching about creatine...but my friend says that with cell-tech u retain most of ur mass! ok so ive only used creatine for a short while...and neither did i even get to the cycling phase...but my results were quick! Ok so heres the question...when ure on creatine...how many cycles would u have to do so that u retain ur mass...even when u get off creatine? and what do u guys think of Cell-Tech??

Thanks bros...u know this site is really cool! can get loads of info here THANX

cheers
Nick

akursus · #12 (**permalink**) 04-24-2003, 06:19 PM

My brotha I started this game both out of lack of patience and frustration. The simple fact of the matter was, I did not know how to build my body and after 6 years of clanging around heavy weights and following every musclemag article to the "T" I figured I was destined to stay at 6'2" and 225 lbs forever. It was then I decided that I needed to do something dramatic to get any further. I can honestly say that I could have easily made 250 lbs naturally with what I know about the body and how it works (and maybe more importanly how it doesn't work).

I spent 8 months researching before I felt confident enough to do my first cycle of sustanon/dbol/deca. I got a lot of good advice before I jumped in. There are things you just have to know about pharmaceutical enhancement to be responsible and efficient with these drugs. I urge you to do all the research you can before you "indulge." You will be more confident in what you are doing and will get and KEEP more of what you are after.

Welcome... Keep researching,

I learn things from these brotha's of mine all the time. My guess is you will find all the knowledge you seek by being patient and asking good questions.

AK Ursus~

akursus · #13 (**permalink**) 04-24-2003, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by Nick007
Ok will reseach as much as possible! Was just wondering ...from your guys experiences...since u have tried and tested most of these roids.....which do u think has the least side effects and the best results??

by the way....a friend of mine recommended that (normal nutrition question) I try Cell-Tech instead of regular creatine! I mean ive used creatine before...and like in 2 weeks my weight shot up from 62kg to 72Kg ..and boy was i stoaked! but when i got off the stuff....i lost all my new found mass!so thats why i was bitching about creatine...but my friend says that with cell-tech u retain most of ur mass! ok so ive only used creatine for a short while...and neither did i even get to the cycling phase...but my results were quick! Ok so heres the question...when ure on creatine...how many cycles would u have to do so that u retain ur mass...even when u get off creatine? and what do u guys think of Cell-Tech??

Thanks bros...u know this site is really cool! can get loads of info here THANX

cheers
Nick

There is enough sugar in Cell-Tech to keep a doughnut factory in business for a week. It will create insulin spike madness in your body and that means FAT. You will be getting bigger alright... but not in the way you desire. Really... Check the label next time you get a chance. They use processed sugar for the delivery agent for their creatine. It won't ever be on my shelf as I don't ever want to do that much cardio to offset the insulin madness of Cell-Tech.

Just my thoughts...

Ursus~

Nick007 · #14 (**permalink**) 05-08-2003, 09:07 AM

Why is Cell-Tech rated as a top supplement? Says its 8 times as effective as creatine! Anyway i also wanted to know this....i mentioned i took creatine before...and boy did i put on weight and muscle mass! but lost it very quickly as soon as i stopped it...i was only using it for about one and a half months! Do you think that my gains would have stayed if i continued cycling it...coz i didnt even cycle it once...coz once i put on weight i was happy so i stopped it!

akursus · #15 (**permalink**) 05-08-2003, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by SoCo4Fun
When doing your first cycle try and stay with one compound. You could take 250mg test enanthate or cyp for 8 weeks and see how you react. Then later on down the road start stacking compounds.

The synergistic effect of stacking androgens with anabolics blows away the effect of taking one compound alone. Your first cycle is DEFINITELY going to be your best. In my opinion one should take advantage of your "virgin" receptors and choose a nice sust/deca/dbol stack for the first time in beginner doseages.

One should simply have all the ancillaries on hand for any possible sides. Believe me... stacking anabolics with androgens gives 50% to 60% better results. .

One should do as much research as possible on the compounds before starting.

AK Ursus~

Ivan · #16 (**permalink**) 05-08-2003, 09:54 PM

Bro, Muscletech prodicts are the biggest "pushers" in the supplement industry. They over advertise and LIE about the product. forget about Cell tech, get a good protein and train hard, eat big, sleep well.

#2 just to answer your question on safety, I think anavar is a pretty safe AAS along with primo.

BigWil · #17 (**permalink**) 05-09-2003, 03:32 AM

My first cycle consisted of 1, 10ml vial of t-200 and 1, 10ml vial of norandren 200. I did just that over an 8 week cycly and gained about 26lbs and retained about 20 of that. I would deffinately put some d-bol into that cycle to gain that much more weight, just as akursus said. But you must still do your homework so you know what is going on. I did not and I wish I would have. The dude I bought my shit from wrote up the cycle for me and I just went with that. Knowledge is power bro. Bigwil

akursus · #18 (**permalink**) 05-09-2003, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by Ivan
Bro, Muscletech prodicts are the biggest "pushers" in the supplement industry. They over advertise and LIE about the product. forget about Cell tech, get a good protein and train hard, eat big, sleep well.

Couldn't have said it better myself...

The manufacturer wants your dollars with little creed in what their product really does... Period.

75grams of sugar per serving of CellTech ( and I always double the serving amounts of my supps) and you will get fat FAST. I can't believe they still sell that crap. Well... I guess if people are buying it... why not.

Ursus~

preist943 · #19 (**permalink**) 05-10-2003, 12:40 PM

Cell-Tech ha i agree with the rest of the bros here i wouldnt wipe my ass with any of there products .

i could be dead wrong here but ,i dont think somebody just starting out should use d-bol .i dont think there ready for the painfull lower back pumps or in my case painfull leg pumps as well ,as this would totaly scare a new bro ,id stick with test/deca combo say 500mg/wk of each for 10 wks or something like that