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Old 03-26-2003, 07:22 AM
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proscar and deca

I keep seeing people say you can not use proscar w/ DECA but i can not find out why. Could some one fill me in? ?)
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Old 03-27-2003, 04:43 PM
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Deca: Hmmmmm


What can be said about this steroid. There is so much misconception that deca is the safest steroid, both on the hair and on the body. Let the myths lie. Although deca does not convert to DHT it does converts to DHN. DHN is less androgenic than deca. The more androgenic the more likely to cause hairloss but this is somewhat a generalisation as androgenic activity is not the only influence of hair loss. Proscar and deca do not mix well. The reason for this was touched upon above "For this reason finastride will work when used with steroids that convert to dht via the 5AR enzyme." Now if the conversion of nandrolone to DHN is prevented then there is more active nandrolone (which is by far more androgenic than nandrolone. If you are noticing hairloss when on deca it is best to discontinue use.

Spironolactone or flutamide (applied topically) are effective in treating and limiting some damage on the hairline. They are both said to compete with the steroid used for androgen receptors located in the scalp.
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Old 03-27-2003, 05:26 PM
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thanks

I was wondering if anyone could give me an educated reason. I like to know the actual reason, not just, it does not mix well. So, thanks again./;

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Old 03-28-2003, 04:45 PM
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Yep, I agree with what Maximus2031 said.

To recap.....

Finasteride (proscar/propecia) inhibits 5-ar enzyme.

5-ar enzyme converts test to dht and nandrolone to dhn.

Dht is strongly androgenic, Dhn is weakly androgenic.

So finasteride + test = less androgen, good for the hair.

But finasteride + deca = more androgen, bad for the hair.

Hope that helps mate.
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Old 03-31-2003, 10:32 PM
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what about Finasteride and gyno?
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Old 04-04-2003, 12:03 AM
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Finasteride will increase the chances of gyno, when used with test mate. This shouldn't be too much of a probelm though, only likely to affect susceptible people. As for using it with deca, well it should slightly reduce the risks of gyno.
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Old 04-05-2003, 09:18 AM
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I took DECA and PROSCAR...now I have a bit of GYNO in my right nip...I even took Liquedex.

I know the gyno had to be caused by the 400mgs of deca and not the 1000mgs of ENANTHATE. I was taking NOLV and ARMIDEX too. And it still came on....

I was taking PROSCAR for body hair and for some reason the symptoms for gyno kept on coming...Hurting nipp(right nipp).

DAMN IT!!!!
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Old 04-05-2003, 12:04 PM
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What about A-50 and proscar? OR dbol?
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Old 04-07-2003, 02:39 PM
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Ivan, proscar will not effect anadrol at all mate. With d-bol there may be a very slight interaction with 5-ar enzyme, so proscar may help just a little with d-bol.

Steak Helmet, gyno with nolva and adex..... Ouch! Do you think it was the finasteride that tipped the balance?
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Old 04-08-2003, 01:14 AM
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I think so...

It has gone away for the most part...the lump has gone down a bit, but you know how we all get paranoid and keep poking at it. Ivan told me that I need to to poke I will only cause things to get worse. So, for the most part, I am leaving it alone and letting it do what it is going to do...and yes I cut the DECA out a while ago.
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