test and proscar

dragon06 · #1 (**permalink**) 03-19-2003, 01:08 PM

I was wondering what will happen to my hair if I use test while on proscar. Will I lose any at all? By using test, will it speed up my hairloss in the future or just while on the cycle?

Thanks bros:help:

nizoralman · #2 (**permalink**) 03-20-2003, 01:11 AM

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Originally posted by dragon06
I was wondering what will happen to my hair if I use test while on proscar. Will I lose any at all? By using test, will it speed up my hairloss in the future or just while on the cycle?

Thanks bros:help:

Proscar will help prevent hair loss from testosterone. However, you may need extra protection depending on how prone you are to hairloss. Azelaic Acid, Nizoral Shampoo, and Topical Spironolactone are very helpful when used in a hair loss prevention regimen.

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bigkev · #3 (**permalink**) 03-20-2003, 05:05 AM

bro, if you have male pattern baldness, there isnt much you can do about it. unless they come out with something new, its all down hill for the hair line.

Steak Helmet · #4 (**permalink**) 03-20-2003, 07:04 AM

I am on PROSCAR now to keep my body hair down and it seems to be working. Proscar is good for the prostate and it is a DHT blocker...so, it will help you keep your hair.

dragon06 · #5 (**permalink**) 03-20-2003, 11:49 AM

But will proscar without on a cycle be bad for building muscle? Im mean since it decreases test in your body?

Abombs · #6 (**permalink**) 03-20-2003, 02:23 PM

It doesn't decrease the amount of test in your body, it actually increases it (10-15% I've read). It blocks the 5-reductase (sp?) enzyme which converts test to DHT.........DHT is the shit bad for hairlines and prostates.

I take it year round. Be careful though b/c it will give you false positives on your liver enzymes if you get blood work done. My AST/ALT's were in the 70-90 range...........then I got off the proscar and it went down to the normal range.

nizoralman · #7 (**permalink**) 03-21-2003, 12:45 AM

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Originally posted by dragon06
But will proscar without on a cycle be bad for building muscle? Im mean since it decreases test in your body?

Abombs is correct. Proscar actually increases the levels of testosterone slightly. One of the known side effects of proscar is gyno. Be sure to stock up on the anti-e's before starting finasteride.

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dragon06 · #8 (**permalink**) 03-21-2003, 01:05 AM

What!!! So if im gonna use it to keep my hair only (not on a cycle) ill need anti-e???

nizoralman · #9 (**permalink**) 03-21-2003, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by dragon06
What!!! So if im gonna use it to keep my hair only (not on a cycle) ill need anti-e???

Not necessarily. You would only use the anti-e's if you start having gyno symptoms.

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dragon06 · #10 (**permalink**) 03-21-2003, 02:08 AM

But is it likely that I will develop gyno if im on only 1mg a day? that is the recommended dose right?

nizoralman · #11 (**permalink**) 03-21-2003, 02:35 AM

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But is it likely that I will develop gyno if im on only 1mg a day? that is the recommended dose right?

Maybe not too likely. I have used propecia by itself a few years ago off cycle and noticed lack of sex drive and my nipples started to become tender. I used arimidex intermittently while on propecia and the nipple tenderness went away temporarily every time. I still use propeica now, but only on very heavy test cycles to protect the prostrate.
I believe the actual percentage quoted my merck is pretty low. However, they tend to grossly under exaggerate the side effects. For example, they claim that less than 2% of men have sexual side effects of propeica. All I am saying is be prepared and watch for side effects.

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josh · #12 (**permalink**) 03-21-2003, 04:40 AM

i have used proscar for a new of years now and have no bad side effects.

josh · #13 (**permalink**) 03-21-2003, 04:41 AM

my bad (for a number of years)

BronSon · #14 (**permalink**) 03-21-2003, 08:06 AM

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Originally posted by dragon06
But is it likely that I will develop gyno if im on only 1mg a day? that is the recommended dose right?

no.. it is not likely..

Abombs · #15 (**permalink**) 03-21-2003, 02:32 PM

I've used propecia for 3 years now and have never had any kind of side effects. But they are possible so just keep an eye out.

dragon06 · #16 (**permalink**) 03-21-2003, 02:36 PM

Do all you guys use 1mg a day? And how much should I bump it up to if im on test?

Maximus2031 · #17 (**permalink**) 03-25-2003, 05:41 PM

I read a study on another board that 1mg is diagnosed for non-steriod users. If you use and are genetically predisposed to male pattern baldness(androgenic alopecia) your supposed to use 1mg to every 200mg of testosterone. Most people use at least 400 mg of test in their cycle. I would never use over 1 mg without anti-e's. Another important thing to point out is that it only blocks one type of DHT. finasteride doesn't work with d-bol, tren and other highly androgenic compounds, so topical spiro would work good since it blocks all androgenic compounds specifically at the receptor site.