Off for a while wanting to get back on ...

skibum77 · #1 (**permalink**) 12-15-2002, 04:04 AM

Its been a while since i've done anything at all. My last big cycle(750md sust 12 wks with 1-2 abombs/day) ended in 04/00 and since then all i did was a 4 weeks cycle of primotesten which was real weak but did help out some since i had been out of the gym for a while and this was in 10/00. I have been hitting the weights pretty hard recently and feel like i'm ready to hit the sauce again but just not sure what to take. My main goal is not to gain to much excess fat and no water retention(i plan on using arimidex) but definiately put on some size. I'm not a total newbie by any means so please feel free to suggest anything. I'm 5'9 177lbs. and 25yo.
Thanks
skibum77

Lift4life · #2 (**permalink**) 12-15-2002, 10:09 AM

What were your stats before/after 750mg test/week and 100mg/anadrol a day? I guess my question is this: You were taking 2 Anadrol a day and you only weigh 175lbs??

skibum77 · #3 (**permalink**) 12-15-2002, 01:19 PM

I started at 135 when i grad. high school and worked up to 152 naturally. Then during the two cycles i was on pretty much back to back in late 99 early 2000 i shot up to 192 at the end of that cycle but i wasn't doing any cardio at all and i was hold a tremendous amount of water weight. Not to long after that i was in a bad car wreck and injured my lowerback and that has kept me out for a while and until recently i haven't been in the gym as intensly as i wish. I also spent 90 days in the clink where i lost alot of weight and came out around 160. My weight where my body naturally wants to be is about 175 or so, but as you can tell i'm not really happy with it being there. My last big cycle was a huge sucess with the exception of the ridculous amount of water i was holding, but this was all before i ever heard of arimidex too. I how that clears some of that up for ya. This time i really have no desire for any strong orals any more because they are a bit to tough on the kidneys.

Lift4life · #4 (**permalink**) 12-15-2002, 11:43 PM

I think you should just do a cycle of test and deca. In my opinion if you are under 200lbs at a decent bf level then you don't need to be doing Anadrol especially not 2 a day.

skibum77 · #5 (**permalink**) 12-16-2002, 12:58 AM

Yeah thats about what i have had in mine.
I figured running 10 weeks with 800mg test Ent, and 600mg Deca per week with airmidex and clomid at the end. I was curious about maybe adding some fina in at the end but i haven't ever tried it. All suggestions appreciated.

Lift4life · #6 (**permalink**) 12-16-2002, 03:56 AM

I my opinion that's too much for you. I mean you only weigh 175 you really don't need that much to do the job. I mean you should start small that way you have the higher doses left to do in the future. I mean if you do that much test now you don't really leave that much room to add on to in the future. I mean you can do whatever you want but here's something I would recommend that is much more reasonable and should have no problem adding all the muscle you want.

week 1-8 400mg Deca
week 1-8 400mg Enanthate

throw in Arimidex, Clomid, and Nolvadex as needed and you should be just fine. You really don't need Tren, Anadrol, etc, etc....at this point. Get yourself up to a solid (not bloated) 200lbs and then you can design a little more complicated cycle. Trust me this is the basic beginners cycle and it's cheap and works great...no need for more at this time.

skibum77 · #7 (**permalink**) 12-16-2002, 12:50 PM

Cool i appreciate the info. The reason i was going so big is that during my last big cycle 2.5 years ago i was doing 750mg of sust a week and i knew i grew well from that so i guess i was just speculating that a good huge dose of test would really get things moving. I suppose that possibly doing that much would just be a waste of cash and i had better save up for some other sauce later.
Thanks
Skibum77

Lift4life · #8 (**permalink**) 12-17-2002, 05:55 AM

Trust me you will grow just fine on 400mg test and deca