please help educate me

[anabolic_hippie]

hey i am a rookie here in the bodybuilding world, i am goin to do a cycle sometime i dont know when, but i know when i do i will be ready and will be educated so i do it right. i was talking to a buddy who knows his cycles, he said that for my first cycle that i should do alot cause i will never grow more then the first one. he tells me that a agood first cycle would be 12weeks of 500 a week of sustanon and 250 a week of cyp or ethenate with 400 a week of deca and if i choose 50-60mg a week of d-bol for a couple weeks and to end off with hcg and clomid. i was just going to ask some opinions on this cycle to see what others think about it, if i am going to manipulate my body i am not going to be an idiot and scew it up

[anabolic_hippie]

sorry 50-60mg a day of d-bol for a couple weeks

[stackdizzy]

Hey dude I would just use one compound (test) and I personally wouldln't see any need to go over 400mgs but this of course is my opinion

[superman1975]

basic beginner cycles test/deca/dbol or test/eq/dbol

50-60mg of dbol will make you feel like shit bro---hell i ran 40mgs and my back hurt the entire 4 wks

500mg of test usually a nice long acting one like enathate for 10wks
400mg of deca or eq for 10 wks
and 30mg of dbol ed for 3-4 wks

[rj420]

yep, superman's got the right idea there... perfect beginner stack... I do prefer EQ over Deca as well. Eq will give you more vascularity and appetite (which is great to have). Deca shuts down the HPTA harder as well.

[anabolic_hippie]

the only reason i incorerated deca and sustanon was cause i already have it i got an increadible deal on it cause i went to india and bought it directly out of the pharmacy, my buddy actually recomended just cyp or ethenate. do you think it would be a better idea to just buy some ethenate and EQ with d-bol and save the sus and deca for another cycle cause if it you think that is the right route to go maybe i could do that

[Tate]

I would do a gram a week of test cypionate or test enanthate. I doubt that the sides would be any worse than 500mg. Also I would cut out the deca/D-bol and add trenbolone @ 50-75mg ed. The only thing this cycle will hurt is you hairline if you are predisposed to that sort of thing. This is a safe cycle that will give you mass and strength that you have only dreamed of.

[Steak Helmet]

I don't know how much you want to gain on your first cycle? If you want as much mass possible, I would EAT A SHIT LOAD...and run the test at a gram. I saw far better results at a 1000mgs then I did at 500. The only side I noticed was my nipps got a bit itchy, so I took LETROZOLE and things went away in 2 to 3 days. Also, remember everyone is different, so watch for other signs.

Honestly I would not be afraid to run things at 1000mgs a week. Then run the D's at 30mgs(no longer than 6 weeks). Any more and I feel your lower back would be so tight, you would be pulling your wallet out from your shoulder. This would be a good cycle for your first one to gain that great mass you might be looking for?

[preist943]

Originally posted by superman1975
basic beginner cycles test/deca/dbol or test/eq/dbol

50-60mg of dbol will make you feel like shit bro---hell i ran 40mgs and my back hurt the entire 4 wks

500mg of test usually a nice long acting one like enathate for 10wks
400mg of deca or eq for 10 wks
and 30mg of dbol ed for 3-4 wks

i also agree with sup.this cycle will kick ass first time out

[builtbig]

well if you were me but your not haha. I would do test and that is it, maybe like 600 mg of t200 or maybe 750 mg of sus250 and that is it. I would not do any stacking till your 3rd cycle maybe then add dbol and deca or eq but not till then! That is what I did when I started out and it worked great. you want to keep your receptors as clean as possible for the longest time. That is my two cents.

builtbig (w)

[superman1975]

Originally posted by Tate
I would do a gram a week of test cypionate or test enanthate. I doubt that the sides would be any worse than 500mg. Also I would cut out the deca/D-bol and add trenbolone @ 50-75mg ed. The only thing this cycle will hurt is you hairline if you are predisposed to that sort of thing. This is a safe cycle that will give you mass and strength that you have only dreamed of.

there is a HUGE difference between 1g of test and 500mgs

[Abombs]

I would do:

150mgs tren EOD
50mgs winny/day
10IUs GH Mon-Fri
2000mgs sust/week
600mgs deca/week
10IUs slin am and post workout
120mcg t3/day
6 clens/day
0.5mg arimidex/day
Cell-Tech
Nitro-Tech

OK, obviously a joke;

the 500-750mg test, 400mg deca, and 40mg dbol cycle is the best thing you can do. Good luck.

[cowboy198]

superman is right on the money!/t\

[anabolic_hippie]

holy shit you guys got right on that and replied thanx alot, i think i will do 750 of ethenate stacked with 400 a week of deca for 10 weeks and 30mg of d-bol for 6 weeks. does anyone know about hcg i here alot about it how much would i take of that, i am thinking to incorperate that at the end of the cycle i here it works wounders

[Steak Helmet]

Ok everyone is different, you should post your stats. Also, you need to post how much you are looking to get out of your first cycle? but please post your stats

Are you not wanting everyone to know you are on AS? Then I would keep to lower doses.

If you don't care and you want to gain as much as possilbe, then go for it.

[anabolic_hippie]

my stats are i am 20yrs. old 6foot tall 215pounds i have been working out a year and i started at weighing 140 pounds i am on an extreme perfectly balanced deit of about 8000 calories a day spaced out 3 hours between meals having 8 meals a day. i plan to get as big as i can, i am wishing to compete in the near future, one thing i want to make clear is that i am not planing to do a cycle right away i am here to learn and when i feel i am educated enough and my body is plateauing then i will.