EQ\dbol cycle

[tony touch]

how does this sound for a 2nd cycle:

weeks 1-10: 400 mg of EQ
weeks 1-5: 30 mg of dbol per day
weeks 10-13: 10mg od dbol A.M. only
finish up w\clomid therapy


goals are to bulk up and put on some hardcore muscle.

currently 5'5 170. hope to hit about 185 with this but if i can squeeze more outa of it, the better.

question is, should i stick with the EQ or should i wait and grab test.

[builtbig]

you need to add in some test with that maybe cyp or sus250. around 400 to 500mg ever week and if you want up the EQ to like 600! I would forget about the dbol at the end of the cycle and just take the eq and test longer if you want!

Builtbig

[mark mcgwire]

I agree with builtbig, you should wait and add some test to the cycle. Most guys will tell you that every cycle should have some form of test in it.

Here's a suggestion for your 2nd cycle

weeks 1-5: 30 mg dbol/day
weeks 1-10: 400 mg of eq
weeks 1-10: 500 mg of test

finish with clomid and have some novaldex on hand in case you get any signs of gyno coming on. You may not need it but you'd better have in case.

[tony touch]

i might just drop the EQ and go with test\dbol

o by the way, the little dbol bridge at the end, is to help maintain mass during the 3 weeks after my last shot. 10 mg in the morning is enough for maintence

[crackerjack414]

I would only recomend the dbol bridge if you are planning to start another cycle after clomid is over

[superman1975]

i would add some test

[tony touch]

why only if i am planning another cycle after this ( immediately after)? Those 3 weeks in between your last long-acting ester shot and the day clomid therapy starts, most people lose a bit of mass and strength. i have known people who have used the dbol theory to their advantage and it was great. employing a creating loading phase during those 3 weeks is also good

[tony touch]

creatine was what i meant to say at the end, not 'creating'

[stackdizzy]

I like the cycle dude I would just add at least 600mgs of test to it. Though I never really notice d-bol until at least week three so me personally would run that all the way through like this

wk 1-10
400 mg eq wk
600 mg test wk (anykind would work but i like prop)
30mg d-bol ed

wk 10- 13
Do the same thing but each wk cut everything in half

wk 13-16
your d-bol am thing
then clomid

I would also do 5000iu hcg eo5d x 4

Also around the 5th week do 4 weeks of slin(if you know how to do it )
With that I would also do 25mcg of t-3 ed to keep fat off
Thats just me though

[tony touch]

dude its only my second cycle. my first was 500 mg of sus alone. why make my second too complicated. its the simple ones that give u the best results. 10 weeks of dbol is a wreck waiting to happen for your liver. i am not into slin at this point. a lil too risky for my taste. might try some r-ala tho. i think ill go with 500 mg of test tho.

[stackdizzy]

lol yea 10 weeks of d-bol will put you six feet deep guranteed especially at that ultra high dose of 30mgs a day

Seriously sorry dude I didn't know it was your second (should have read closer) for that matter i'd do 200 wk e-q and 400wk of test no need to go any higher than that or you are just wasting stuff in my opinion

[stackdizzy]

Also dude if its your second cycle I 'd forget about that hole d-bol bit at the end just yet! You should respond great to clomid at this point!