rookie needs advice

[anabolic_hippie]

hey guys hows it goin, i am about to start my first cycle in a couple weeks. i will tell you alittle about my stats and intentions. i have been working out for about a year i started out at 140 and got my weight up to 215-220 naturally. i deit seriously 8 meals a day 450 grams of protien a day and 7000-10000 calories a day split up 3 hours between meals, i am 20 years old, i am intending to do a bulking cycle. i have sustanon and deca, i was thinking something like 8 weeks of 500 a week of sustanon 150 a week of deca, 50 mg of winstrol a day and tren i am not sure on the dosages of tren and i have clomid i will take near the end and i was thinking of hgc. if you have and ideas or changes your help would be great thanks guys peace

[Steak Helmet]

I would bump the DECA up to 300mgs+ The TREN I would inject every other day @ 75mgs. I would keep the WINNY for another day. You said you want to bulk...keep it that way. Make sure to add a test in there SUS250 or you won't e having too much sex over your cycle

You sounld like you are doing a good job natually...why the change? HEll keep it up 80lbs in a year...hmmmm

Do the SUS on MOnday and the DECA on Friday.

[rj420]

keep going natural bro... until you hit a plateau. If you juice now you will limit your size potential. The bigger you get before you juice, the bigger you'll get when you juice and the bigger you'll be when its all said and done.

But if you are going to be stubborn and use them anyways like most 20yr olds do, then I would stick to test/deca and thats it for now. 500mg/test 300-400mg/deca each week.

Also, I would get a different test other than sust. Enanth or cyp is a much better option and usually cheaper. Tren is not something I'd recommend you do yet. Winny is a waste of your money right now also. Stick with the test/dbol/deca/eq type cycles for a little while.

[kevin d]

WOOAAAHH-you put on over 80 lbs. in one year. Ive never heard of even heavy juicers putting on that much. Why would you want to get on the gear. My advice would be to stick with a good diet, heavy training, and some sensible supplementation. Like rj420 said, wait until you hit a plateau. Also, do not take deca and tren together unless you dont need to get a hard on for the next 10 weeks.

[anabolic_hippie]

yah maybe i will listen to you guys, i am very proud of what i have accomplished naturally, i am not the biggest guy around, but i have more dedication to it then anyone i have ever met and when i talk to other bodybuilders who i have met they get very mad and call me a lair. i will save the cycles for abit until i see signs of plateau, it just seems so easy to just do a big cycle and get massive i see pics of all these big fuckers and i know i can look like them, i was going to do sustanon because i got a bunch of amps for 3 dollars canadian when i bought it in india when i was there along with deca that i also bought, anyways thanks alot guys your compliments just motivate me more to keep goin.

[Willy]

Look like them, And the gear will come in to play sooner or later but if you are still gaining like that, Jumping the gun and starting to soon could be counter productive like others have said. Keep banging away and be patient.

[saint7]

They are right bro wait awhile and max out naturally. Then do a cycle. Saint7