Powders, how many are makin there own?

rAJJIN · #1 (**permalink**) 11-26-2002, 01:35 AM

who all is makin there own gear from kits?
I believe Ive got the tren masterd and what i like the best about it is it is REAL everytime. Say I have access to "Powders"
What can I make fairly easy and who is gonna be able to help me out? Excell i was kinda hopin you may be around on this one,
or anyone else please feed me some info and tell me what Im missin out on. peace
rajjin

rAJJIN · #2 (**permalink**) 11-26-2002, 01:37 AM

also, please dont refer me to animals board, Im well aware of it
just sometimes hes hard to communicate w/.
lookin for my fellow members help on this one^
rajjin

rj420 · #3 (**permalink**) 11-26-2002, 03:19 PM

the longer estered "pastes or goos" are supposedly easier to convert. Here is the process for boldenone undec from Big Cat at chad nicholls board.

Boldenone undecylenate is definitely a light-yellow liquid at room temp or above. Just like most long ester steroids such as nandrolone decanoate and testosterone undecanoate. Its a very thick oil, a little hard to handle since it only barely passes a 16 G needle. If you are content that the material is perfectly sanitary, then you proceed to get the following materials : a sterile rubber-top vial, two sterile open top vials, arachid or sesame seed oil and benzyl alcohol. Say you are making a 300 mg/ml bold undec solution, and you want 20 ml. Then take one of the open top vials, fill it with 20 ml of water and mark the vial. Then calculate 3%, in this case 0.6 ml. Take out 0.6 ml with a syringe and mark it again. Copy the markings on the other open top vial. 300 times 20 equals 6 grams. 6 grams of the bold undec oil in the vial. Heat the arachid or sesame seed oil to 100 degrees C or 212 degrees F, and let it cool. As it cools, but before its completely cool, add it to the vial, all the way up to the first mark (which should be 19.4 ml). Then add benzyl alcohol to the second mark (20 ml). Close the vial and shake it well. Let it sit so none of the oil stays coated on the glass, open it up and use a syringe and needle to transfer it to your sterile rubber top vials. Voila.

rj420 · #4 (**permalink**) 11-26-2002, 03:20 PM

btw, instycnt knows his shit on powder conversions.

crackerjack414 · #5 (**permalink**) 11-26-2002, 07:40 PM

hey bro definitly keep us updated on this iam very interested in the same subject. So far ive found tren and test prop the easiest

rAJJIN · #6 (**permalink**) 11-30-2002, 03:47 PM

Thanks rj.
Im gonna give her a bump, I know someof you guys have some info on this..help a brother out Ry Excell willk were you at
biga or the other pros, Do you guys know if theres any homeade
brews at the top level? Thanks for any info. rite now i can get
a few things in " powders Im i the only knucklhead thinkin
of doing this? should i just stay clear?

superman1975 · #7 (**permalink**) 11-30-2002, 07:50 PM

i make my own---but make sure your guy sends the right shit--i had an abcess start because of that

rj420 · #8 (**permalink**) 12-01-2002, 04:19 PM

rAJJIN: as long as the supplier is sending pure powders you will be alright. Not a very hard procedure for most compounds.

KAOTIKCHEM · #9 (**permalink**) 12-01-2002, 05:04 PM

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We will be more than happy to answer any questions that you have on the topic and provide you with any information you need to perform the experiments with our kits.
I hope that you will find that we are more than happy to help your desire to learn more about chemical experimentation.

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rAJJIN · #10 (**permalink**) 12-01-2002, 08:05 PM

thanks fellas.
KAOTIK your the man, Damn i just ordered a fina kit from Chem
2 days ago. I appreciate your willingness to help me (us) out.
Cant wait to try your products.
rajjin

rAJJIN · #11 (**permalink**) 12-03-2002, 01:50 AM

Ok, lets say i had 8 grams stanozol (sp)
do i convert the same as tren? If so Its obviously gonna be an oil base winny or is there another kit i need ? also is it the same
process as fina, mix swirl filter filter etc? Can I make it Waterbase
say like an hcg injection? Whats my best route for the best results? thanks again for your time and help..

Also this may be a stupid question, but regardless of what chemical i use test winny Nandrolone... 8g = 8000mg correct?
rajjin

KAOTIKCHEM · #12 (**permalink**) 12-03-2002, 02:50 AM

Your math is correct and it does apply to any compound.

As for the conversion processes, all the kits work fairly similarly and have the same theory behind them, however the chemicals and ratios of the chemicals differ slightly from kit to kit.

If you are wanting to work with Stanazolol, (and you live somewhere it is legal to experiment with:)
You would not have much success trying to get it into an oil based solution.
We have a kit that will work for winny and it uses Polyethylene Glycol and the main solvent. This wil create a solution very similar to an oil based solution but it is more water soluble than oil.

You can use winny powder in a very simple formula to duplicate the pharmaceutical versions made by companies like Zambon. The only problem with this route is that most stanazolol carried by powder distributors is NOT micronized and will not flow through even an 18g pin when mixed in a water suspension.

If you have anymore questions feel free to ask.

rAJJIN · #13 (**permalink**) 12-03-2002, 10:48 PM

You can use winny powder in a very simple formula to duplicate the pharmaceutical versions made by companies like Zambon. The only problem with this route is that most stanazolol carried by powder distributors is NOT micronized and will not flow through even an 18g pin when mixed in a water suspension.

If you have anymore questions feel free to ask. [/B][/QUOTE]

Damn,now see i would have wasted it already. Thanks for the heads up on the winny being micronized* Im sure it probly not.
ok forget winny. my next choice is Boldenone. an yes
i recide in th UK /t\ wich kit would i need to convert and is it a good choice of chemical to convert as far as easy an effective.
thanks again rajj_uk

KAOTIKCHEM · #14 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 12:58 AM

The main question I have to ask before I can answer your question is are you going to use Boldenone Base or are you planning to use Boldenone Undecylenate?

If you use Bold Undec. you can use our Universal 100 or 200mg kit and you could even push the mg/ml ratio as high as 400mg by adding less oil. This comound work fabulous in oil.

However if you plan on using Bold base. You will have to use a depot kit to have any good results. Boldenone base is one of THE worst compounds to try to get into oil. It simply will not suspend in an oil solution without WAY too much co-solvent like BA.

So let me know which compound you will be using and we can go from there.

arrowone · #15 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 01:17 AM

quik question, boldenone base would have to be injected EOD correct?
and boldenone undecy. could be injected 2 times per week right..??

slick · #16 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 12:15 PM

Yes bold base would have to be at least EOD if not ED.

Bold Undec could be once a week if you wanted to.

xcelbeyond · #17 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 12:42 PM

Sorry I haven't been around here much - you should have e-mailed me =)

As you've seen I have a thread at Animal's about my recent (Monday) SusOil conversion for stanazolol. It was a real "pain in the ass" (TOO LONG A PROCESS to describe here) to get converted!!!! Then, in the end, I couldn't tell if it was good - Animal finally replied to my post about this and all seems well.

If you gonna do winny, it's suppose to be "hard" to get suspended, and I'LL VOUCH for that, I'd try KC's easy kit for the conversion (hopefully it's less problematic - can't be worse). There is very long thread at Pro Muscle, started by KC, re: converting Winny powder.

Since I like the ester-free powders for site enhancement =) , I also do a lot of test base. Test base is another one that's suppose to be somewhat difficult to suspend (but not like winny!). I've used A's U-100 kits succesfully, without much problem but am going to try KC's easy kit to see if it'll suspend it.

xcel /t\

crackerjack414 · #18 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 04:02 PM

hey do any of you guys have any experience with the conversion of prop

KAOTIKCHEM · #19 (**permalink**) 12-04-2002, 09:59 PM

Send me over a PM and I will give you all the info on working with Tprop.

rAJJIN · #20 (**permalink**) 12-06-2002, 12:20 AM

Kaotic, both are available and run basically the same $.
so undec. is the one i want rite. thanks again for the info.
youve been a big help already bro. I will contact you e-mail
when i get my material, also i will let everyone know how it turns
out,
rjjin

rAJJIN · #21 (**permalink**) 12-06-2002, 12:28 AM

Since I like the ester-free powders for site enhancement =) , I also do a lot of test base. Test base is another one that's suppose to be somewhat difficult to suspend (but not like winny!). I've used A's U-100 kits succesfully, without much problem but am going to try KC's easy kit to see if it'll suspend it.

xcel /t\ [/B][/QUOTE]

Xcell- hey buddy glad you made it over, How did the test
conversion work? what kinda results?
any sides like night sweats numb arms etc.
usually when im on some good test i get the nightsweats like a sumbitch. Also in your experiences so far are the powders
costworthy and effective or simply a waste (iyo)

KAOTIKCHEM · #22 (**permalink**) 12-06-2002, 01:53 AM

Yeah the undec would be the one I would use if I were you.
You would end up with an end product that is comparable to EQ.

Plus Undec works like a dream in the U kit.

xcelbeyond · #23 (**permalink**) 12-06-2002, 02:25 AM

Night sweats?!?!? I sweat ALL THE TIME! Since I started eating 7+ times a day, my body is in high gear all the time. It takes me about 2 hours to cool-down from a workout. The heat went out at work the other day I'm like "HEY - this is great!!" Everyone running around in jackets and jumping around to stay warm. I'm kicked back in the chair enjoyin' life ROTFLMAO

How does $116.40 for 100 grams of PURE test base sound to you - SOUNDS REAL CHEAP TO ME! The only supplement that makes me "feel" ANYTHING is ephedrine and SuperClen. No gear ever bothers me except once in a great while I have trouble getting to sleep but that's usually at the beggining of a cycle and I'm excited =)

As long as I get get good, pure powders, I won't do storebought. I figure you can save substantial amount of money and have done it enough to know it's a very sterile product as well.

xcel

rAJJIN · #24 (**permalink**) 12-07-2002, 04:18 PM

Thanks buddy Im sold.
now if i can just get that damn hgh powder lol
seriously though i appreciate the help fellas and fixn to try
the u100 @the 1st of new year*
rajjin