SWALE HAS SOMETHING FOR ALL OF YOU!

[SWALE]

I have something I want to tell you all about. My hope is that you will all read through this posting, and realize it is not a forbidden commercial application, but rather something I have put together which can benefit ALL participants of this Board. I hope you like it--the response so far has been very appreciative.

Perhaps some of you are already familiar with my work on the Meso-rx and T-MAG Forums. I am a physician who has become very much interested in working with steroid athletes (and providing HRT for men), and spend time nearly every day answering questions on the Forums of a medical nature. I do this in order to try to help keep guys as safe and healthy as possible while engaging in steroid usage. It became obvious to me that AAS athletes frequently have worries about getting counterfeits, ripped off, confiscated and/or busted. Because I have a medical license to protect, I cannot prescribe steroids (except as HRT), as there are no legitimate medical indications for increasing muscle mass here. However, there ARE legitimate medical indications for treating low testosterone and high estrogen levels. As I have spent the past six months learning all I can about steroids (mostly from the Boards—they don’t teach this stuff in medical school!), I have come to realize it is unhealthy and detrimental for these athletes to not use the “ancillaries”. To that end, I have established a website to provide hCG, Clomid, Nolvadex and Arimidex to help protect the health (and gains) of steroid athletes. We’ve also thrown in anti-hair loss meds, testosterone (for my HRT patients),and even Viagra—all stuff the hormonally-supplemented want and need.

Because I want to make sure EVERYONE can afford the ancillaries (or HRT), I dispense these meds AT MY COST—THIS IS WHY THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL POSTING. I do not make a single penny on it. Because of that, we are now getting quite close to Black Market prices (i.e. $1.75 for Clomid and Nolvadex, $40 for hCG, $90 for testosterone) and, if the guys are really interested, expect the prices to drop even further as I can buy them in larger quantities. Even so, now these FDA-approved meds can be acquired in a scam-free environment, guaranteed delivery, and with the protection of a physician’s script, dispensed from a U.S. pharmacy.

I’ve read a lot of posts from guys wishing they had a doctor who would do this for them. Of course, legend drugs can only be prescribed to patients, so I have to take a medical history and get a release from anyone who wants them. I WILL FREELY WRITE FOR THE APPROPRIATE ANCILLARIES FOR ANYONE WHO IS TAKING steroids. This all takes time, and I have to pay someone to help me with the paperwork and handle the website. So I have to charge SOMETHING, but have set my Consultation Fee to be the lowest in the industry. Once you pay that, you may re-order as many times as you wish, for a year, for only a small Follow-Up Fee. Because I do not accept insurance (we do, however, try to get your insurance company to pay for the meds), no insurance company can ever demand to see your medical records—I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN ACCESS YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS. I also offer labwork and the interpretation of same, on demand. In other words, this is real medicine, not one of those Internet pharmacy operations that don’t know what they are doing, but charge $2000 for $400 worth of gear.

The website address is:

will let big A have look first before delete to much more, kiwi

You can reach me personally at:
doctorjohn@itpayz.com

I’m also proud to be one of the very few doctors who recognize the healthful benefits of maintaining serum testosterone levels at the top of “normal” range. Unlike many of the docs who do provide Hormone Replacement Therapy for men, I know what I am doing. My goal is to help as many men as possible live life to its fullest. It is not to write for every medication I can, in order to make as much money as possible by charging ridiculously high prices. Again, I dispense them AT MY COST.

Once I have completed some training early next month, I will also be offering HGH. I expect to have the lowest prices anywhere in the US.

I’m very much interested in EVERYONE’S thoughts regarding this first-of-a-kind concept. This note is very similar to one I will be sending to every Message Board I can. Since I am not profiting from the meds, my hope is my efforts will be appreciated as a non-commercial effort, and will be met with appreciation, rather than a cyclone of flames. Also, I need to shake out the bugs from this venture, before trying any actual advertising.

Unfortunately, there are not enough hours in the day for me to answer medical questions on every Board. I will make sure, however, to follow this thread in order to answer any questions you may have.

If I may be of any help to you, please do not hesitate to contact me.

--“SWALE”
John Crisler, DO

[fullblown495]

dude you cant post this here

[preist943]

1 u didnt read the rules ,no source posting ,no sales on this board without asking a mod ,lets see not makeing a penny hu? yea sure lol your here just to help us .hey bro by the way your prices are more than double what i pay ,close to black market my ass

[Paul Bunyan]

The guy is just offering his assistance. Some people don't want to resort to the balck market because they fear legal repercussions. There are some that just want their health monitored without fear of their insurance company finding out the details. I don't know this guy and so don't take it wrong. It is nice to find out that there are doc's out there you can trust.
PB

[superman1975]

bro you cant post this hear unless approved by a mod---and i doubt it was so this post will be deleted soon

[superman1975]

and your prices suck ass

[Steak Helmet]

BUMP...

Get this off of here...hmm, you think a doctor would read the rules?

Rule # 1 NO POSTING SOURCES
Rule # 2 NO POSTING SOURCES...

EXTREME RULE NO POSTING SOURCES!!!!

RULE #3 No FLAMMING
RULE #4 NO POSTING SOURCES...

[BIGKIWI]

I am trying to do bit off edit here but ain't got the controls sussed yet , you may have to give me a minute :)

[HEMAN]

bros this guy his been posting the SAME thread on five different boards today. sounds fishy to me. doesnt ask permission, doesnt read rules, and doenst respond to any questions directed to him. on one board it was deleted and he put another back up there the next day. he was banned after that.

[Big Hock]

Terrible prices. Damn let me say it again TERRIBLE PRICES. the only thing I think he would be good for is blood work.
I dont think he would be the DR. I turn to for questions on AS since he does the same thing I do. READ ONLINE AND LEARN.

I dispense these meds AT MY COST—THIS IS WHY THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL POSTING. I do not make a single penny on it.

Right. Armidex at 7 dollars a tab and you dont make a penny?


-Hock

[Steak Helmet]

True BIG HOCK


Also he is NEWBIE he has not taken the time to earn respect from others to be posting things of this nature. HELL, it is his first post! I guess he feels he is above everyone and can step in a get respect because he is a docotor. I have respect for DOCs but he still needs to do his homework and build the respect from others.

[SWALE]

Sorry guys, I sure didn't mean to cause any controversy. In my thinking (which, I now see, was wrong) this is not a commercial posting, since I am not here to "sell" anything. As for the insults, they are from people who have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Enough said there. I just wanted to let everyone know there is now a doctor who wants to work with them, one who knows what he's doing. I just rolled through the Boards this weekend, trying to give everyone some good news. It really was an opportunity for you (or so I thought!). Several of the Boards have been receptive, and they are the ones I will assist. I have even been invited to join a Board by its owner, who wants his members to have access to my care. Either way, I am growing an impressive list of happy patients, and that is a wonderful thing. There should be nothing negative about any of this. I just wanted everyone to have a chance. The prices are the way they are because I am not yet able to buy in quantity. That will change. Remember, this is all FDA stuff--not Black Market. Many of my patients have their meds paid for by their insurance, anyway. It might interest you to know that there are VERY strict laws with severe penalties regarding physicians who IN ANY WAY misrepresent themselves. I could literally lose my medical license if I distort anything, in any way. And so I haven't, nor will I. I know no one has ever seen anything like what I am proposing, and it is natural to meet the unknown with skepticism and mistrust. However, I obviously cannot take the time away from my medical practice to donate time to EVERY Board, as much as I would like to. It is something I look forward to each day. I have one that I consider home, and I am happy there, and very much appreciated. Seriously, guys, I expect flak from the conventional medical community for trying to help steroid athletes, but I really can't stomach it from the guys I am trying to help. Think about this: the next time someone posts here complaining about how their doctor lectures them about using steroids, or just doesn't know anything about steroids, or won't provide ancillaries (which to me is wrong) remember, you had a physician reach out to you, and this is how he was treated for it. I'll check back in tomorrow (it's been hard keeping up with all the Boards this weekend) to field any questions, comments, or even smart-remarks. In the meantime, the best of luck to all of you.

[Armageddon]

The good thing about it is he's only a few hours away from some of us, right paul b. Hell even if I didn't get anything from him, its nice to know that I can now have a doc that knows everything that I'm doing!

[yardrock]

What is your DEA number? Medical licence number? And where do you have your practice? Give me an address.

[TxRebel]

I am with yardrock.........plus not many "real" doctors would risk losing there medical licence to help people on steroids its not worth it......and $1.75 for clomid....and he says hes not making any money.....

[Armageddon]

what a dumb thing to ask for. If he gives you his dea number then all you need is a script pad and you could go anywhere and right scripts for anything. Medical licence may work and he could give you his practice location. If you look into the products, they do cost more through a pharmacy than they do on the Black Market. I'm not supporting this guy just yet, I would just be alittle less skeptical of someone offering help to OUR community. No one wants to question Rick Collins. He's good for us but he obviously makes alot of money off of some of us. I just think that it would be great to have a doc that I can go to and not have to lie about certain things

[preist943]

i think what went wrong was he didnt contact a mod first and the fact that he just poped up everywhere at once .he just might be a cool bro ,but should have done his intro right

[SWALE]

Any of you who wish to have my office address can simply check the website, that's why I put it there. I will be happy to provde references, and proof of why this CANNOT be less than legitimate. You are absolutely right that I did not do this "the right way". However, I simply did not have time to spend dozens of hours on each Board warming up. Think about it, how many doctors could? None. Yes, my ways are a bit unconventional (alright--they're over the top!). But sometimes in life something comes along that has the potential to be so good, it bears giving an honest look. I just wanted to give EVERYONE the chance to see what I have, for those of you for whom it would really be a benefit. Believe me, I am picking up A LOT of patients this applies to. And I'm keeping them all happy (so far!). My unconventional strategy also allowed me to weed out the Boards that are unintelligent and uncivilized. To that end, I must say that I am a bit disappointed in some of the responses I've read here. Anyone can post, sure, but real men simply do not cast dispersions on another's character without proof. It's just not the way the world works, besides being cowardly. No man may call me a liar. A couple of you should learn a little about what you are talking about before speaking (writing). Why don't you do a little research and see what pharmacies pay for medications? If I could get my Clomid and Nolvadex down to $1 per tab, and be at the Black Market prices, I sure would. But this is genuine FDA-approved stuff. Plus Upjohn test cyp (for my HRT patients). That should make your mouth water! When I can purchase in larger quantities, the prices will go down. I've already been able to lower the prices several times. Besides, many of my patients get their ancillaries paid for by insurance, so price is a moot point. I'm just trying to get to where I can help you guys stay away from the problems of dealing with the Black Market, at least for some of your stuff. I've also made HRT affordable for almost everyone. Of course, I am picking up a lot of flak from the Black Market dealers, who don't want me to take away their business! Maybe that's where some of the insults come from...

[Ivan]

Swale, I'll tell you right now, the black market dealers do not care. They know they have lower prices and same quality stuff. (if you get a good source) Sure you are gonna get some clients, hell it does not make us felons under your gracious prescriptions, however, as you know, if you are careful and smart, juicers should have no probs w/ Johhny Law.
The reason for the insults is because of the NUMBER of times we the members have been straight SCAMMED, I am talking about a lot of money somtimes too. There are many types of scammers, please understand this. NOW FOR THE MAIN POINT: You sounded A LOT like a scammer when you burst on the scene like you did. It freaked bros out. You see, this board has rules that need to be followed, when they are broken our tight-knit family gets alarmed and takes action.
which is what happened to you. Our mods have to ok things like this, so when you disregard this, it makes us all suspicious as most scammers try and hook newbies or unsuspecting guests right away, then the mod will come to the rescue, but often too late. Well that does not happen on this board.
I DO like the ideas you have and your intentions are great. Very good. HOWEVER, when you make comments like you do not have time to warm things up etc etc, it makes us think like we are merely a little side gig you got going on, you know like there are so much more important things you need to be doing.....Well, Swale m'boy when you are OUR doctor, (since there is the consulation fees and the follow ups, followed by expensive product --- not your fault---) we expect to recieve full attention no matter the circumstance. If you played your cards right (or do play them right----that depends on you) you could have more clients than you can handle, making you an obvious hit and mini-meathead celebrity.
I am sure that being a doctor it gives you this sense of authority, hell I can see it in your posts. Hey, this is a good trait of a sure and confident doctor, just don't treat us like we don't matter! We are people that have all diff. careers, some lawyers, and yes even doctors.....Unfortunately in order for our breed of people to survive, we depend so much on our system and what we learn on boards like these. We have been lied to by our govt., some of us are felons now because of juice, AND most of all; the MEDICAL community has SHUNNED us and if anything drew ridiculous conclusions about AAS. So Swale, you see, this is survival here buddy, do we want to get scammed? No! do we want to get busted? No!

Wait....busted you say? Call this a conspiracy theory:
What if you are a DEA operative setting bros up? The physical office, website, all set up and run by the feds? Yeah, the online forms are really just means of gathering info. "So what cycles do you take? Uh Huh, and when?" Maybe hoping to get some "Flak" from sources, so THEY KNOW where to look.

NOW, I do not think this Swale, just saying me as a member and thinking of some members that come to mind, this foreshadowment could be a real cause of fear or debate for somebody seeing your intro.

All in all, Swale I think you are a good bro, and your services will help people. There are a lot of fellas here that have families and are getting older that need to take zero risks or they jeapordize the family. They will benefit from you --- not to say others won't either.

[SWALE]

IVAN, your points are well taken. Please let it suffice that I am on a mission to change the way conventional medicine "shuns" the steroid community (what could they be thinking?). Think how many hours it would take for me to become a Bro on this Board. Now multiply that by the 16 Boards I contacted. Please appreciate, too, that every hour I donate to answering questions to try to be of assistance here, is an hour I am away from my practice. It is a certain sacrifice for me, as it is for the other professionals here who already are putting in 80 hour weeks or more. Obviously we must enjoy it very much, or we wouldn't be doing it. To me, it's just trying to give something back for all I have learned about steroids from the Vets on these Boards. Set me up for my professional career, really. I think MORE docs should spend a little time here. That would be good for everyone. Ya, I came crashing right through the front door. But that's over now. I tell you what: I'm going to be doing the same thing to the conventional medical community as well. Some of this shit has just got to change, and, by God, I'm going to get it started. BTW, I have just come to an agreement (oral--not on paper yet) to write a monthly column for a bodybuilding magazine. That should let me get on my soapboz internationally through the written word. So, no offense intended. I'm confident all my patients will tell you my communication skills with them are very good, that they enjoy the relationship, and that I am about as regular a guy as any doctor can be. Shoot, I'm just loving what I do, man. IMPO I have the very best patient population in the world. I literally collapse into bed every night, and STILL can't wait to get up and get going in the morning. If you guys promise to keep it just amongst us Bro's, I'll confide that my methods, although unconventional, helped me weed out a few Boards I will now not have anything to do with. Saved me tons of time, really! Last, all my best to all of you, as we pause to reflect on the abundance of our blessings. As for your conspiracy theory, I'll have to discuss that with Elvis and Jimmy Hoffa later...

[SWALE]

P.S. I don't know how that smiley got in there, I've never tried to use one. It looks like it fits, though, yes?

[Ivan]

HAHAHA You crack me Doc! Man, if you really are who you are, I got nothing but love for ya.

[Armageddon]

It will work to everyone advantage if it does.

[preist943]

ivan said just what i was thinking too , people try to scam us everyday .you sound like a good bro if you really want to make an impact talk to a mod about geting a sticky

[SWALE]

thank you. That's a good idea.

Happy Thanksgiving, all. Remember, eating yourself stuffed is just what the doctor ordered. If you see some mincemeat, or pumpkin or apple pie and you eat it, the only mistake you made would be if you forgot to put some ice cream on it!