questions from a virgin

[onebadhoss]

i have a friend preparing for his first cycle. he wants minimal sides and 15-20 lbs. of lean mass. he's 5' 8", 120 lbs. and has about 5% body fat. i'm thinking d-bol at 20-25 mgs./day for the first 4-6 wks., 100 mgs. primo for wks. 1-3, 200 mgs. for wks. 4-7, and 100 mgs. for wks. 8-10. comments? suggestions? thanks!

[akursus]

Well, the first thing I would say is, wait a year (at least 6 months) and TRAIN & EAT. "he's 5' 8", 120 lbs" which says to me that:

1. He hasn't been working out very long if at all and is turning to gear right off the bat to get big without trying naturally to build a "shell".

2. He might have been working out for some time but not eating and/or training correctly.

3. All of the above.

This is not a flame bro... I am trying to give you sound advice. Tell your friend, even though he might not like it, to train naturally for a year (the correct way, meaning EAT EAT EAT).

If he still insists that he use gear, here is my suggestion:

1) 30 mg's dbol daily for 6 weeks
2) 500 mg's test (cyp,enanthate, sust, omna... etc) weekly 8-10 weeks
3) 400 mg's EQ (or deca) EQ preferred for less sides 10 weeks for EQ
4) Have anti estrogen aids like nolva and clomid on hand
5) Do as MUCH RESEARCH AS POSSIBLE about training, eating, and the gear mentioned above-

AK Ursus...

[preist943]

i agree with akursus i dont think he needs gear .he needs lots of food , see its like this ,say he takes gear puts on 20 pounds so what , whats that a buck 40 learn how to eat and train ,if you take gear and dont know how to train and eat you wont get anything but zits and big nips

[rAJJIN]

well how old is he an how tall? my girlfriend weighs in at more
than that. Let me tell ya it takes a lot of hard work to just through on 15 or 20# of Quality muscle. one cycle of primo
and d-ball will NOT produce that kinda results in reality.
Takes me freakinkin bottle after bottle it seems. honestly
thats the facts jack, sad but true
rajjin

[cobra333]

IM NOT NO PRO BRO BUT YOU NEED TO EAT

[crackerjack414]

hey ill let you in on the most anabolic substance kwon to man food and lots and lots of it. Id say a atleast a pound of meat a day with tons of other food.

[onebadhoss]

thanks bros. my boy has been working out hard for 6 months and is well-muscled as far as being cut up. he does, however, have a problem with eating lots of food in a day. i'm putting a diet together for him, and we'll get him big. thankks again.

[akursus]

In this game... attitude makes all the difference. That seems like the right one.

Make him stick to that diet, train hard and get lots of rest. He will be amazed in 12 months...

Ursus...

[onebadhoss]

thanks. yeah, this little fucker weighed 100 lbs. 8 months ago. he works out like a maniac and tries to eat, but his metabolism is wired so tight that he burns calories like crazy. his body responds really well to working out, though. i think i'm just going to make him eat all day instead of 4-5 "meals" per day, and see what happens. thanks for all the good input.

[crackerjack414]

I had a buddy the same way what we did was 8 meals a day and between meals we kept poking protein shakes down his throught. Ir worked very well he went from 6'2 140 6'2 180 in about 8 months

[yardrock]

How old is this bro? 5' 8" 120lbs? No juice! Eat like a cow and take weight gainers. Or wait until you pass puberty. LOL
At 120 lbs he is malnourished, not lean.

[rj420]

he needs good tasting high calorie foods bro. Tell him to eat McDonalds, make some good protein-milkshakes to drink throughout the day, he can just keep them in the freezer. He just has to train his body/mind to eat more and soon it'll become habit. Also, tell him to try and refrain from cardio activity, like basketball and sports that require high energy expenditure.