My very first cycle, Wouldnt mind advice

Daveb19 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-09-2002, 11:29 AM

Ok heres an overview of my cycle. Please all those packed with info give me your opinion on it.
I have liquid d-bol 50cc's 25mg per cc, i will be taking 25mg per day for 50days from day one starting cycle.
Also test ethinate, I have 2 bottles each bottle 10cc's and 1000mg per bottle, im not sure how to take this i hear twice a week is good but im not sure about where to inject or if i should spot inject and how many mg's per inject, i was told to 23guage 1" needles are good for this. Also the dbol i paid 100.00 for, and the ethinate was 80.00 a bottle, is that a good deal or no. Please give me any advice you may have on this, anything i need to add, ideal ways to take this out for maximum gains. Im very excited for this and plan the whole time to eat and train like crazy while on. As far as after therapy what should i go with, Clomid? how much? Thanks a lot for your time guys.

rj420 · #2 (**permalink**) 10-09-2002, 01:42 PM

he's stepping over, uh oh. You should make some great gains bro, cause I know you got the genetics. With the "liquid dbol," I assume you have Reforvit-B, which is some dirty shit to inject, thus you take it orally. When you take it orally, however, you will lose some. I'd say to take 50mg/day, and you'll probably absorb 60-70% of that, so it'll be like 30mg/day. What type of Enanth do you have? Usually enanth is dosed at 250mg/ml, yours by description has 100mg/ml. If that is the case then you need to get some more test to be able to run 500mg/week. Those prices are high... is it human grade? I can get QV enanth 250mg/ml, 50cc jug for $130. Post cycle therapy I use a combo of things. Nolvadex @20mg/day for weeks 12-15, clomid 100mg/day weeks 13-16, and arimidex .5mg/eod through week 16 from day 1. Also, be sure to throw in creatine/glutamine/ZMA's post cycle to aid in keeping the gains.

Big Hock · #3 (**permalink**) 10-09-2002, 01:43 PM

I wouldnt go over 4-5 weeks with the DBOL. As for the Enanthate what brand did you get? 80 bucks is too much but you allready bought it so don't beat yourself up over it.
23 Gauge, 1.5 Inch is ideal for injections into the glutes
25 Gauge, 1.0 inch is ideal for injections into the quads and can be used for all spot injections.
25 Gauge, 5/8 inch is often used for tricep/bicep/delts

never go over 3cc per injection site.

you don't need to spot inject enanthate.

anyway I would have some armidex on hand in case of gyno...and your clomid therapy I would run 2 weeks day1: 100mg
day2-14: 50mg ed
-Big Hock

preist943 · #4 (**permalink**) 10-09-2002, 02:48 PM

steping up to the plate hu bro your going to do well big hock and RJ already dished out the advice the onley thing i can ad is if you got your gear from someone at the gym he didnt kill ya its just cheaper to get it yourself some like to use eth every 5 days i do the once a week thing usualy in bis tris and delts with 25g 5/8s pin never liked ass shots lol

Ivan · #5 (**permalink**) 10-09-2002, 09:26 PM

Also, with the reforvit --- go get some gel caps and then fill them with the liquid. Then you can put them in a gnc bottle and take them wherever. It also makes it tasteless.

dpsquat · #6 (**permalink**) 10-09-2002, 10:09 PM

ne3ed more test and i dont thing youll need any arimadex.. Unless your prone but you dont know the nolvs will do fine... Oh i never end without clomid EVER!!!

Daveb19 · #7 (**permalink**) 10-09-2002, 11:50 PM

thanks for the responses guys, the thing is i dont have the money to get anything else. So im thinking of running the dbol 50mg a day which will last about 4 weeks, and i guess the test once a week 500/mg which will last 4 weeks as well, I have to work with what I have, so u think this is good, or maybe streth it over longer peroid of time.

superman1975 · #8 (**permalink**) 10-10-2002, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by Daveb19
Ok heres an overview of my cycle. Please all those packed with info give me your opinion on it.
I have liquid d-bol 50cc's 25mg per cc, i will be taking 25mg per day for 50days from day one starting cycle.
Also test ethinate, I have 2 bottles each bottle 10cc's and 1000mg per bottle, im not sure how to take this i hear twice a week is good but im not sure about where to inject or if i should spot inject and how many mg's per inject, i was told to 23guage 1" needles are good for this. Also the dbol i paid 100.00 for, and the ethinate was 80.00 a bottle, is that a good deal or no. Please give me any advice you may have on this, anything i need to add, ideal ways to take this out for maximum gains. Im very excited for this and plan the whole time to eat and train like crazy while on. As far as after therapy what should i go with, Clomid? how much? Thanks a lot for your time guys.

run the dbol @50mg ED--i doubt the test is 1000mg--more like 200-250mg/ml so you have enough for 10 wks @ 400-500mg so thats a good beginner cycle--the price sucks ass but you learn as you go--make sure you get nolvadex, clomid and liquidex/arimidex unless you want to wear a bra--clomid post cycle-start 12 days after last shot of test--run it day 1 300mg days 2-10 100mg days 11-20 50mg, just inject it into your ass, eat well and train right--DONT OVER TRAIN--keep the nolvadex on hand post cycle cause gyno can and does come on AFTER your cycle

superman1975 · #9 (**permalink**) 10-10-2002, 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by Daveb19
thanks for the responses guys, the thing is i dont have the money to get anything else. So im thinking of running the dbol 50mg a day which will last about 4 weeks, and i guess the test once a week 500/mg which will last 4 weeks as well, I have to work with what I have, so u think this is good, or maybe streth it over longer peroid of time.

STOP!!!!!!!--you dont work with what you have--GOD DONT BE STUPID!!!!!!!!! that is the fastest way to fuck up---GET EVERYTHING YOU NEED BEFORE YOU START---and if you have to wait on your cycle big deal!!!!!!!!!! SOMEONE ELSE BACK ME UP--otherwise we will hear his next post as--guys i have itchy nipples what should i do

miked_08 · #10 (**permalink**) 10-10-2002, 01:30 AM

although im still a newbie at the subject.....i say wait till you got your shit...all of it!!!!! You know what they say...."If you gonna do it do it right"

Ivan · #11 (**permalink**) 10-10-2002, 01:34 AM

I'll back exactly what he says!!! 1. you will end up shorting yourself out -- something you def. do not want to do for a 1st cycle. 2. if you do get side effects and do not have the certain "antidote" or precautionary med you will hate life. 3. this isn't even a cycle if you are running test for 4 weeks. It will just be beginning when you stop, and your body won't know what the fuck is going on, your hpta will shut down and who knows when it will start up again.

You have enough dbol. Get more test. Get some type of anti-E --- maybe just some nolva as you do not know if you are prone to gyno -- I'm not. I still have some left from '97 my 1st cycle. Get some ancilleries for your post cycle regimen. Get some vitamins. Maybe a liver protector as well.

Daveb19 · #12 (**permalink**) 10-10-2002, 03:49 AM

sorry about the confusing heres exactly what i have now as far as the test goes 30cc's 200mg/ml, obviously when i say "should i work with what i have?" im refering to the test/dbol I never said should i just say fuck the anti E's, if you pay attention my first post asked for a recommendation of what to go with post cycle.. which I already got an answer too

Ry Roid · #13 (**permalink**) 10-10-2002, 06:07 AM

1. Androgen load your first half of course(Sust, Enanthate, Cyp, Deca, Drol, Dbol etc)

2. Use fast acting tests and anabolics your second half(Prop, WinV, Primo, Anavar etc)

Take it slow and only use 1-3 compounds at a time to see what works for you and what doesn't. Throw out anything that doesn't and keep what does. Keep a journal if you can and gauge what compounds work best for you.

RY

Big Hock · #14 (**permalink**) 10-10-2002, 02:33 PM

"STOP!!!!!!!--you dont work with what you have--GOD DONT BE STUPID!!!!!!!!! that is the fastest way to fuck up---GET EVERYTHING YOU NEED BEFORE YOU START---and if you have to wait on your cycle big deal!!!!!!!!!! SOMEONE ELSE BACK ME UP--otherwise we will hear his next post as--guys i have itchy nipples what should i do"

Listen to Superman he knows his shit!

trust me on this one.. get all your gear anties vitamins, supplements, etc BEFORE YOU START

I am still putting together my cycle which I had hoped to start 10/1 and now I think I will finally have everything by the middle of next week and will start 11/1 instead.

Id rather wait and do it right than jump in and do something wrong. but thats just my opinion.

-Big Hock