Kyno and Cramps

[xcelbeyond]

and a couple of other kyno-related questions.

I hope there are some bros here with experience using kyno. I took my first shot this AM. The stuff is very fluid. I used a 25g pin to draw and it filled the syringe like I was using a 20g \./ . I stuck 3ml in my left quad using a 27g, 1/2" pin since it doesn't need to be IM. I struggled to keep the injection time down (but I did) to 1 minute per ml. As a result of this experience. I can see how people probably inject too fast and get pain and soreness as a result (which I've read is a common side). I could have easily put all 3ml in, within 30-60 seconds as easy as it flows (and that's through a 27g pin)!! Also; this is my 1st time injecting more than 2ml into "one" site.

I got some HELLACIOUS CRAMPS all day =gr) ! Drank about 1-gallon of water but still got 'em in my upper pecs, lats, and hams. I just got done with my 1st Fina cycle, last shot on Monday (results posted on Fina board). Cramps I got on Fina were not like these though! Anyone know if this is a side from kyno or I'm still feeling effects of Fina? I've also been on Clomid, 300mg 1st day, then 100mg per day since.

The amount of time before my next cycle will be 8-9 weeks due to some personal commitments. Do any of you think this is too long a period to stay on kyno?

Thanks
xcelbeyond =/

[TheDude]

(=) Shoot it with slin pins. Much ez'r! I have been off the sauce for 10 weeks now and slamming the kyno at 2'ccs a day with zero loss of strength and size. I drink loads of fluids. Water and gatorade. I heard many saying foul shit about it but it works for me. Dude

[Big A]

That is a common side effect of kyno, just like the irregular heartbeat. That's why Syntheselen is the better choice. It's been 'tweaked' so you get the same results, but some ingredients ratios have been altered so you get no cramps, irregular heartbeat, etc.

And you can stay on it as long as you wish, because kyno, or especially Syntheselen have no side effects as toxicity go.

[TheDude]

(=n) Where do you get this(Syntheselen)? Thanks, Dude

[Big A]

Click on that banner at the top of the board or go to www.syntherol.com It's one of their products.

[xcelbeyond]

Syntheselen may be "similiar," but it doesn't contain adenosine monophosphate (amp) (=n) , which is the "key ingredient" in kyno.

I read enough info to convince me that Syntherol is the best seo. Can you direct me to info that says Adenosine Triphosphate, Uridine Triphoshpate or any other indiviual or combination of ingredients in Syntheselen is "better than" amp?

So Dude, from this post, you should be able to figure out where you can get Syntheselen lol .

xcelbeyond =/

[Big A]

From a bodybuilding results point of view, ATP has the same benefits as amp, but it doesn't have the extreme vasodilator properties of amp. Yes, it's good to have a powerful vasodilator in there (amp) over a moderate one (ATP), but because amp is such a strong vasodilator, it causes the heart palpitations in a lot of users and you can literally kill yourself if you overdose on it.

I commonly use straight amp for competition use, to bring the vascularity out the day of the show.
Here is what happened only a few weeks ago, just so you realise what can happen with amp.
I usually use 400mg two hours before going on stage. So, I gave that much to this guy that I was training for this comp. He looked great. A week later, there was another comp and he wanted to try to get even more vascular. So we injected him with 500mg, only a100mg more than the week before! As soon as the needle came out he passed out for 15 min. The vasodilation caused by the amp was so extreme, it took the oxygen out of his brain causing him to pass out. When he woke up, he had mad veins though! LOL

Anyway, as I said, for our purposes, ATP use has the same results, but not with the potential dangers of amp, although some people can handle the amp in kyno with no problems at all.

Also, Syntheselen has the mineral ratios varied so it doesn't cause as much cramping. Again, that is a symptom that only some get.

[GRIZZLY]

Using Syntheselen currently and going Sub Q with it, no probs. No cramping at all, getting very vascular. So far I am impressed.

[xcelbeyond]

I knew that you'd come through!

xcelbeyond =/

[Big A]

Yes, I forgot. As grizzly said, you can inject it subq. Acutally, you can inject all the products from synth ind, subq, apart from the Synthetine which has to be IM and of course Syntherol has to be IM too.

[Big A]

Bumping for the guy that needs it.

[BIG_GUNS_21]

So in your opinion kyno is a pretty harsh drug BIG A? What about just takeing straite oral ATP? But then you would not get the same fat burning as with the kyno would you. I have a bottle of kyno in my box of goodies right now. I bought it b/c its cheap and I heard good things but I have been holding off on takeing it till I see some feed back. Anyone every hear of someone haveing a REALLY bad reaction to the stuff??? Or just irregular heart beat and cramps? Not that those arent bad enough...lol

[willk]

You already have the kyno, you might as well use it, but i would not buy kyno, that vet french kind again. I used it, and once i got the dosage high enough to see results, the sides kicked in. I am going to try Syntheselen next. it isnt as toxic (vitamins) from what i hear, and the post cycle pain isnt shit in comparison. the french kyno hurts really bad after injection, and then you cant shoot your reg roids. IMO i would use it, because it did lean me out while on test, but get a better brand next time brother. (=)

[crackingvials]

That kyno shit is nasty, and leaves a taste after injecting. Go with a brand that is intended for humans, that vet shit is shit. dont even bother. throw it away.

[Big A]

kyno is not a drug, but a stack of various legal substances. However, in order to get results from it, the dose that you need to use is so high, some people are quite sensitive to the side effects, especially the irregular heartbeat and the cramps.

I would personally sell that kyno bottle and buy the Syntheselen with the money you get for it. But that is my choice. Otherwise, since you have it anyway, use it and see - maybe you won't react as bad to it as some people do.

All in all, both of them produce good results. Just that some people are really sensitive to one of them.

[BIG_GUNS_21]

Ya that heart beat crap is what freakes me a bit. I get palpatations on gear sometimes...lol Might not be the best choice for me...I might just stick with primo. Cant hit anything good for awhile. Doctors orders. Thanks for the info bro...

[DAMONSTER]

what is the doc saying? do you have high blood pressure, liver values high, cholesterol high, whats up? i am curious now.

[BIG_GUNS_21]

I had liver function done and it came back REALLY shitty! also high bp and an allergic reacion to eGH...Just a wreck these days...lol

[xcelbeyond]

What gear do you attribute your high liver values to?

Do you know. How much were you taking?

xcelbeyond /thumb/

[the oak]

i would recommend eating about 3 to 6 bananas per day, taking some calcium tabs, and plenty of fluid, lots of water but also something repleneshing like gatorade, kyno is great stuff though, keep the faith