cutting cycle?

[tyhigs]

Is 400mg primobolon + 200mg eq per week for six weeks a good idea for a cutting cycle? Also, with so little EQ, I shouldnt need any anti-e's , right? I'm also trying to avoid all t3's, clen's, yohim, ephedrine/norephrine, and caffeine, cause I just get too jittery. ROTFLMAO ;aaa;

[tyhigs]

fellas, how come i cant get any replies???

[Pusher]

If you have to ask what a good cutting cycle is, you shouldn't be considering a cutting cycle.

No offense.

http://www.rippedmass.com/forums/sho...&threadid=2397

Read and learn.

[Statix]

i gotta agree with Pusher...what's your reason for the trying to cut up right now?....your diet is gonna be the biggest key to getting leaner...doing eq for only six weeks isn't gonna do you much good...it'll take a few weeks to see any gains from the eq, so i would do eq for at least 10 wks...from those two with that short of a cycle you could probably put on a few solid pounds and getting leaner would only depend on your diet...i think you'll be disappointed if you are expecting those two to just make you shredded...just my two cents

[tyhigs]

yeah thanks, pusher. ive already read that same post numerous times. it's your opinion (or someone else's opinion like animal's that has been pasted several times) , and i have mine. dont be so self righteous!

[superman1975]

you can use this for either 6-8 weeks

100mg of test prop EOD
75mg of fina/tren ED
50mg of winny ED
run clen/T3 for 2 weeks on and then 2 weeks off
run ECA with your T3/Clen off weeks

you should be shredded

[Armageddon]

Forget the EQ and use fina or winny. Hell use both and throw some haols in there. Skip the winny and use suspension in place of it.

[tyhigs]

Thanks Superman and Armageddon, but I've tried the tren home kit, and I am sensitive to the progestinic ability of tren, although I did try it with Androsol, so that could be part of it. I just dont want to take the chance of having the small growth under my nipples get any larger. I also get too jittery on the thermogenics (i'm not tryin to have a heart attack). Winny sounds like a good idea, but 50mgs/day x $12-15/ampule x 60 days - just sounds like toooo much dough

[Pusher]

Originally posted by tyhigs
yeah thanks, pusher. ive already read that same post numerous times. it's your opinion (or someone else's opinion like animal's that has been pasted several times) , and i have mine. dont be so self righteous!

You could learn a lot from Animal, he's not the most personable person in the world, but he know's his shit. When you deal with drugs, you have to think critically and not shoot from the hip with only 1/2 the information.....just like doctors. Look at things from all angles.....why do I want to do a cutting cycle? do I already have enough mass? why will these weaker anabolics like winstrol work better for *cutting* than the stronger drugs like testosterone?

I'm not self righteous, but I think your line of reasoning is wrong and I think you are brainwashed into thinking that the drugs in the magical "Cutting" group will somehow make you look different from the drugs in the magical "Bulking" group. Bullshit, and if you cannot see that it's bullshit then I, nor anybody else can help you.

And I won't even get started on the "Oh, I can't take [insert drug here] because it makes me feel like [insert excuse here], and I can't take [insert drug here] because it causes [insert side effect here]."

It's posts like these that make me want to roll my eyes and shake me fucking head.

[tyhigs]

pusher, i see your point, but whats wrong with avoiding side effects? really, the whole point of anti-e's is to prevent side-effects. you may think im a pussy, but i know my body. you are right about one AAS not necessarily being better than another in terms of 'cutting.' I am looking at the ones that simply dont aromatize (minimize estrogenic fat and bloat).

[superman1975]

tyhigs--i have to agree with pusher--the idea of a cutting cycle and certain drugs being better then the others is foolish--big muscles help to burn fat--plain and simple

i gave you a pretty standard cutting cycle--substitute the amps of winny for pills--they are cheaper and just as effective, the T3/clen stack, if used in moderation should not produce jitters--just so ya know--after using T3 you need the ECA otherwise your to lazy to move--i have also read that winny can combat progesterone gyno-so thats good for someone prone to it--

why are you deciding to cut up in august anyway--i assume you are a college student getting ready to go back--save your $, get a good bulking cycle--wait till january, use your student loan $ get the cutting cycle i suggested and tag some ass at spring break----thats when you need to be cut

right now i am preparing for a bulking cycle--who cares if my ass is fat and my abs disappear--its going to below zero in 2 months--cutting is not on anyones mind right now--unless they are preping for a contest

just some shit to think about

[tyhigs]

Originally posted by Pusher


You could learn a lot from Animal, he's not the most personable person in the world, but he know's his shit.

not! ROTFLMAO

[dpsquat]

anavar
winny
masteron
gh
test prop
test susp
eq
winny tabs
nolvs
t/3
clen
tren
............. i used this for the jr's and usa (thanks wylde)
dude your diet better be tight!!!.. i would use winny and tren for cost or winny and test prop... most guys like yourself think the gear will cure all.... it doesnt just makes you want more... fore eca try xenadrines ephedrafree type!

[cobra333]

the best cutting cycle in my opinion is straight up hydroxycut .. i ve tried anavar /winny all that bullshit not trying to advertise it or sell out to it but hydro is the best

[Ivan]

Originally posted by cobra333
the best cutting cycle in my opinion is straight up hydroxycut .. i ve tried anavar /winny all that bullshit not trying to advertise it or sell out to it but hydro is the best

No offense but you have a lot to learn. The good ol' ECA stack IS good, but it has holes. Reason I said you have to learn is mainly because you called it the best.....well maybe for you, but anavar and winny are OK for cutting, I always think of these as maintenance anabolics/ pre-contest cutting. You see, I think you were under the impression that winny and var just burn fat and get you all thermogenic.. Not really. In my opinion DNP is best, but that blows as far as how you feel and the risk factors involved. Taking clen with T-3 AND an anabolic would be a good fat-burning cutting cycle to go along with the cutting DIET.

[A.k.a Puffy]

My 2 cents
no Offense but I wouldn't really call this a cutting cycle, I am currently using 400mg of Primobolan a week along with some proviron as a bridge between cycles.... So far its going good, been doing it for almost 5 weeks..... Have maintained all of my muscle, A little water or fat gain but not much, I am starting Fina EQ and Prop next week, 100mg fina eod, prop 200mg eod and eq 200mg eod.. for 16 weeks, Hoping to make a dramatic cut in body fat, this is just me and what I sugest..... Ho ho's and twinkies will make you fat, broccli protein and good carbs wil make you lean...
It is what goes in your mouth and what comes out, not to be gross but that is what makes a difference in your diet... If you want to go to BK and take Primobolan thats your deal, but listen to these guys on the board, they know what the fucks up................ Never seen another board as good keep rocking guys........ /;

[cobra333]

HYDROXYCUT IS CHEAPER.. ONE AND TWO EVERYONES BODY IS DIFFERENT. MINE ADAPTS WELL TO HYDRO .. AND NO I DID NOT SAY THAT I THOUGHT THAT ANAVR AND WINSTROL WERE MADE TO CUT THEY ARE BASICALLY BRIDGING COMPONANTS

[Ivan]

Whoa....relax man...... And Hydroxycut is OUTLANDISHLY expensive for what it is. I used to get muscletech products when they were solely out of Canade, and the prices were good. Now that company and it's products suck; at least I think.

I could easily get clen + t-3 for the same price as a 120 capsule hydroxycut, in the same type of quantity. I ALSO used to take the ECA stack when it was pure, taking minithins, no-doz, and aspirin. Winny and var can be used as bridging but I see a lot more BB's using them pre-contest to prevent catabolism / keep water out.

[Steak Helmet]

WOW COBRA you sound like the head sales rep for MUSCLE-TECH.

Yes Hydroxycuts are good...but AAS is BETTER period. When you say your body adapts to HYDROXY better....well, that makes no sense. When someone adapts to something, that usually means that their body needs more of it. You must have had some fake gear in the past. Like IVAN said, a stack of CLEN and T-3 would be the same price as HYDROXY(if your source is not screwing you?). Also, Your diet plays a huge role in whether you become cut or not. Take all the HYDROXYs you want and eat like shit and you will end up being a fat wired guy sweating all the time.

TRAIN HARD!!

[Lex]

They only "drugs" that actually "burn fat" are DNP and clen. I have used a50's , test suspension and fina till two days out and I was fucking shredded. I really don't belive this cutting drug cycle stuff. Its all diet not how many reps you do or if you are on winny. Ephedra is just to keep you awake thru cardio. Clen aint bad but your receptors burn out fast so I would cycle that and if you are using dnp well, youll find out. LEX

[tyhigs]

Originally posted by tyhigs
I'm also trying to avoid all t3's, clen's, yohim, ephedrine/norephrine, and caffeine, cause I just get too jittery. ROTFLMAO ;aaa;

I have a heart problem - cant take this stuff.