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Old 08-05-2002, 08:01 PM
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what kind of pure powders...are

made and available.

...is there such thing as eq powder that can be bought, ...

i haven only seen it on a list once or twice.
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Old 08-06-2002, 12:01 AM
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i'll bump this for ya--i asked about gear powder before and had little response from another board--so maybe this will get a better response
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i'm not sure what you are asking?
but bulk powders are available for just about every as you can imagine. if you were able to get them it would save you a bundle to make your own goodies/t\ .
i am not saying i have them though, i've just heard about them.
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Old 08-06-2002, 02:54 PM
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i'm not sure what you are asking?
but bulk powders are available for just about every as you can imagine. if you were able to get them it would save you a bundle to make your own goodies/t\ .
i am not saying i have them though, i've just heard about them.
Ditto here. I believe that everthing you find in a vial originates in powder form.

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Old 08-06-2002, 09:58 PM
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XCEL,
What i was wondering was there all the differnt powders are readily available...

I know that all regular gear is made from powders...

what is the general availability...on the black market.

I have seen it on several lists, but the price wasnt good enough to bother. 75 bucks for 5 grams.
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Old 08-06-2002, 10:21 PM
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Finding a source that carriers raw powder is very hard to find. My dad has an import business and I can order any raw powder I want! The only problem is you cant just order 500grams. I wanted to buy some raw winstrol powder and I had to buy a minimum of 4kg. Thats alot of stuff. The only thing is. for about 5k you would have enough winstrol to run the rest of you life at 500mg ed if you wanted. By the way, almost all raw powder/suppliers/manufactors come from china.
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Old 08-06-2002, 10:58 PM
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ok that really sucks...

i ... definately dont want to order 5 kg of gear.

500g would be doable, but ...5kg is a ridiculous amount of gear...
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Old 08-06-2002, 11:25 PM
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Depending on what you're after, $75 for 5 grams ISN'T BAD (if its pure powder)! Do the math - that amount makes A LOT of gear.

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Old 08-07-2002, 12:27 AM
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well,
lets say that you get 5g at 75.00 + 50.00 for kit.

and you get about 50 cc of 100mg.cc suspension...

If one were to buy spectro and get 2 bottles, they would have 4g of gear. This would total to 200.00.

so 125.00 to 200. Not really a huge difference inho, considering that spectro is getting only positive reviews...

I was thinking that 100.00 for 10g would be a good deal, i think that was what his original deal was...Not that is a very good deal...
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Old 08-07-2002, 01:03 AM
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Like I said "it depends on the gear." You didn't say what the $75 was for.

1) I haven't paid more than $100 for 10g of test base and I believe "you" know how much I'm trying to get it for now. And it takes 10g worth of U-100 kits at $80. 10g at $180 is MUCH better than 4g for $200.

2) There's the issue of sterility with water-based products (water-borne bacteria). A mod over at got fina got an abcess from jurox winny and bigkiwi said he got one from water-based just to name a FEW. Also the crystals in water-based are quite large and can plug-up the largest pins.

Just my $0.02 worth

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Old 08-07-2002, 02:37 AM
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it was for test base or prop...

yes for 10g it is a better deal...for 5g no...but if everything works out ...ill give this a go eventually...def sounds promising.
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$75 for 5 grams is alot to me. of course i've never bought it or seen it, but i think if you looked hard enough you could find test base or prop for 130 - 150 for 100 grams.
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Instead of making injects, couldn't you just cap the powders?
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Very good ??? buddy!!
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Old 08-17-2002, 10:40 PM
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Very good ??? buddy!!

Actually there are few people that have access to such powders but, to those that do it is WELL WORTH IT to know you are getting the most pure stuff out there. EQ happens to be in liquid form because of something to do w/ its stability or something. One of my smart ass chemists explained it once but, I have ADD so I didn't catch it.hehehe Basically if you got powder all you would need it a solvent kit and sterile oil and you could make like 1000grams at a time.

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Old 08-17-2002, 10:45 PM
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It would have to be a 17aa in order to cap it (you are talking about taking it orally I'm assuming.) Which might work with the winstrol but not for test, etc., but I'm still a firm believer in injectables as far as effectiveness because you don't take the risk of losing any gear like you do from the digestion processes and such. However, many poeple say that they drink their inj. winstrol and it is just as effective. There have been many previous posts on this topic as well. just a few thoughts for ya

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Old 08-17-2002, 10:49 PM
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.) .) --don't ask me where the fuck that came from up there???
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Anyone find out more about this stuff?
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Old 11-02-2002, 04:14 PM
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Anyone find out more about this stuff?

Like What is available,does it sell like fina,who carries it,where can
one get the kits?
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How would one find out the chemical name of the pure powder?
I think that you would be better able to find it that way, than to look for 'EQ in powder form' if you know what I mean.
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Old 11-02-2002, 06:37 PM
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Sources also use "trade" names for powders.

As ry said, boldenone (EQ) has a very low melting point, something like 80 degrees F?? I'm interested in getting some no-ester boldenone powder but am concerned about this melting issue - anyone have any suggestions??

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Old 11-02-2002, 06:41 PM
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How would one find out the chemical name of the pure powder?
Check out http://www.professionalmuscle.com/fo...?threadid=1174 for a fairly complete list.

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bros...10gms or enth. powder would run about $50 that will make 40ml of test enanthate at 250mg/ml..you figure it out..i'm gonna post a link for everyone
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I wonder if

one can search for the powder like fina order it like fina and
make it like fina.
I was also wondering what if any where available.Kits and all.
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THANKS EXCEL!! very extensive list. That was what I was looking for. -/
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For all who are inquiring about where to purchase kits for testing solubility of certain organic compounds.
Please refer to the Kaotik Chemistry sticky thread at the top of the board.

IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CONSUMER TO KNOW ALL APPLICABLE LAWS IN HIS/HER CONTRY PERTAINING TO THE COMPOUNDS THEY MAY CHOOSE TO USE IN THE RESEARCH KITS.

I also wanted to give a few pointers on a few things I read that it seems people have been slightly misinformed on. The slight differences in compounds can make HUGE differences in there solubility properties.

First rule of thumb is that the longer the ester chain the more oil solubility the compound will have. The smaller the chain the less oil solubility. The exception to this rule is with an ester chain as long as the Laurate ester. When the ester chain gets this long the compound will actually start to have less solubility in oil.
So compounds like Test Enathate and Bold Undec, could be put into oil at high mg/ml ratios without the use of excessive co-solvents.


It was stated that EQ is not actually a powder it should be a liquid at room temp due to the low melting point. The thing I wanted to point out is that EQ is Boldenone Undecylenate, not to be confused with Boldenone base. Boldenone base has a melting point of 170-172C. Boldenone also has VERY little oil solubility and does not work well in oil kits.

Someone also mentioned Test Enanthate as a powder.
If someone is marketing Test Enathate as a powder, it isnt pure Test Enathate. TE has a melting point of 34-36C so it should be a liquid at room temp. Sometimes however I have heard of both Test Enathate and Boldenone Undecylenate as a paste but definitly never a crystaline powder. So buyer Beware.

Feel free to PM me if anyone has any questions.
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i wouldnt bother making my own test but id take some winy powder and cap it in a second......that also seems most economical........
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