d-bol in the morning to keep gains?

RIPPEDman · #1 (**permalink**) 07-28-2002, 08:21 PM

suggestions?

xcelbeyond · #2 (**permalink**) 07-28-2002, 09:12 PM

For a bridge, use 10mg immediately upon waking. This should not suppress HPTA.

xcel

BronSon · #3 (**permalink**) 07-31-2002, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xcelbeyond
For a bridge, use 10mg immediately upon waking. This should not suppress HPTA.

xcel

I have heard of this method,never tried it.have you?if so what were the results?

xcelbeyond · #4 (**permalink**) 08-01-2002, 12:54 AM

I've never used d-bol! .) But - that's gonna change veeery soon, as soon as my shit arrives - a whole shit-load of d-bol.

I'll be using it in my upcoming doggcrapp-style cycling and will try my first "cruise" using it for low-dose, morning only. Next cruise, I'll try 200mg phenyl prop per week (2 x 100mg) and compare products/results. I'm hoping that I retain as much during cruise with d-bol as with low-doe test!

I'll keep you all posted when I get rolling.

xcel /t\

hyper · #5 (**permalink**) 08-01-2002, 02:53 AM

Yes, I am going to try it at the end of my cycle...I will let you know. But I never try and gain 20lbs. I stay pretty lean and keep the muscle I have gained.

Bigbadasian · #6 (**permalink**) 08-02-2002, 06:23 AM

|--[\\\]>------ Xcel, i've heard of dogcraps cycling, can you outline it for me/us..?

xcelbeyond · #7 (**permalink**) 08-02-2002, 01:20 PM

Hey BBA,

I'd love to, but I couldn't begin to cover pertinent details. IronAddict put together a VERY LONG "summary" but it didn't cover DC's credibility (which is also within the threads), which I felt is just as important (so you understand that this guy knows his shit and can back it!)

The post is at Animal's Forum, http://www.animalkits.be/ Select <THREADS>, post is titled "cycles on pennies" and is usually on the first page. It has over 29,000 views, 530 replies, and 36 pages long!!! It's one of the best, MOST COMPREHENSIVE posts I've read. Read at least the first 4 pages in the thread bro.

xcel /t\

I shouldn't have up my SuperClen dosage. Can't write for shit - LOL

Big Hock · #8 (**permalink**) 08-02-2002, 05:34 PM

Xcelbeyond,
not nice bro...Posting that link...I can't stop reading those threads hehehe I need a break from the computer daaaamnnn.! LOL great reading!

Big Hock

preist943 · #9 (**permalink**) 08-04-2002, 12:07 PM

i used morning d-ball 30mg per day for 4 weeks and didnt loose a thing worked great i say 30 but they were tts so it was probley more like 15mg ha ha

Bigfella · #10 (**permalink**) 08-06-2002, 11:28 PM

IMO you need to use a slightly higher dose for a decent muscle mass sparing effect. Bill Roberts theorised that upto 100mgs (yep, you read right) in a single dose would do little to inhibit the HPTA, I would suggest a more reasonable dose of 30mgs all a.m. but you must run an aromatase inhibitor along with it to avoid estrogenic inhibition from aromatisation. This type of dose still allows recovery to take place and will lead to virtually zero inhibition. Be careful of liver toxicity though, keep to max of 6 weeks IMHO........

Hope this helps bro.

Bigfella.

MikeS · #11 (**permalink**) 08-07-2002, 05:09 PM

Id use a non aromztizing oral, like one of **s winny/masterone/anavar type products. Take 50mg
ED. You may want to add a little dbol or A50 EOD or
less for an extra boost.
IMO-the 1 per day dose of dbol may not last in your system
very long, but the resulting aromatization will. And IMO it will
have a more negative effect on your HPTA than the androgen itself.

vmari001 · #12 (**permalink**) 08-10-2002, 11:40 PM

The post is at Animal's Forum, http://www.animalkits.be/ Select <THREADS>, post is titled "cycles on pennies" and is usually on the first page. It has over 29,000 views, 530 replies, and 36 pages long!!! It's one of the best, MOST COMPREHENSIVE posts I've read. Read at least the first 4 pages in the thread bro.

xcel /t\

BUMP, that is the best thread I have ever read!!!!! Everyone should at least read it even if they have no intentions of trying any of his principles. He has a wealth of knowledge and he explains it all!!!!!

dabiscuit · #13 (**permalink**) 07-03-2003, 03:18 PM

okay guys,
I would love to read cycles on pennies, but those asswipes over at animalkits made it a private forum ...
anybody got the article ?
thanks !
dabiscuit.

xcelbeyond · #14 (**permalink**) 07-03-2003, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dabiscuit
okay guys,
I would love to read cycles on pennies, but those asswipes over at animalkits made it a private forum ...
anybody got the article ?
thanks !

As far as I know, dc only posts on 3 boards. This may help you out: http://www.professionalmuscle.com/fo...?threadid=3919

xcel

preist943 · #15 (**permalink**) 07-04-2003, 03:32 PM

everyone keeps saying private ,i get in just like always what gives?

dabiscuit · #16 (**permalink**) 07-04-2003, 03:42 PM

those links worked just fine, excel.
thanks a lot, bro.
very, VERY informative thread to get your cow growing.

xcelbeyond · #17 (**permalink**) 07-05-2003, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by preist943
everyone keeps saying private ,i get in just like always what gives?

If you've been a previous customer, he gives you access rights.

xcel

DOGGCRAPP · #18 (**permalink**) 07-06-2003, 10:04 PM

Thanks for the plug xcel
I think if they hit this link they will be in

http://www.animalkits.be/phpBB/view...p?forum=11&4065

DOGGCRAPP · #19 (**permalink**) 07-06-2003, 10:06 PM

Ok that didnt work--lets try this

http://www.animalkits.be/phpBB/viewf...?forum=11&4126

DOGGCRAPP · #20 (**permalink**) 07-06-2003, 10:07 PM

And if that one doesnt work forget it--that Doggcrapp guy is an idiot anyway--(lol)

dabiscuit · #21 (**permalink**) 07-09-2003, 08:17 AM

thanks a bunch dogg,
sent ya a pm to your ziplip addy, hope it still works ?
oh, and by the way, you were dead on with the olive oil !
; )))

Badlands · #22 (**permalink**) 07-09-2003, 07:56 PM

I have heard of Dbol bridges with as little as 10mg/day in the am.Some swear that they keep their gains from that.

Ironically our own testes produce approx 10mg/day.

Whether that little bit shuts down HPTA remains a subject of debate. Run a search on Cuttingedgemuscle.com for some interesting dialogue.

My .02

mikeloury21 · #23 (**permalink**) 07-14-2003, 05:24 AM

good read fellas, just started dbol, want to go about 40mg's a day, how would u take this at a good dosage for optimal gains

xcelbeyond · #24 (**permalink**) 07-14-2003, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mikeloury21
good read fellas, just started dbol, want to go about 40mg's a day, how would u take this at a good dosage for optimal gains

I'd spilt it up into "at least" 3 doses throughout the day - 4 would be even better. My first time with d-bol was 30mg ED (3 x 10mg) and it kicked my ass =)

xcel /t\