Propianate ?

[IwannabeHuge]

How much prop to take with a Eq 400mg/week Ara/500mg/week for 6 weeks and now how much prop to start with. I want to cut up and get better pumps. Its my first cycle and i want to run it for around 4 more weeks. I have about 100 dbols on hand too. What do you think..........I have made awsome gains so far. I just want to cut up and gain strength here on out./t\

So the cycle will be 400 Eq/ week X Prop?week and X/dbol per day..............Please fill in the X's for me. It is my first cycle.
I am about 6'5'' and around 285 I have 11.5% BF.

[Macdaddy]

I wouldn't go less than 600mg prop per week. And I would run the D-bol at around 30mg ED at the beginning of the cycle for as long as they last. The prop will kick in almost right away but the EQ might take a while. So D-bol would be good at the start.

Good luck bro!! /t\


Macdaddy

[MikeS]

Start with the prop too for a good kick to start./t\

[Macdaddy]

Hey MikeS,
I see you just found this board too. We're not the quickest cats are we. LOL!!

[BronSon]

6'5".285lbs,11.5bf.holy shit!!!and you said this is your first cycle?thats one hell of a package to start with.

[Bigbadasian]

|--[\\\\]>------- Keep in mind the aratest has prop. in it too. I would also run this more than 4 weeks, IMO, start with the dbol, run that for 4 weeks along with your Eq, and Aratest, then after your dbol is up run the prop. for the remainder, 5 or 6 weeks. So run the Eq and Ara straight for 10 or 11 weeks, dbol from weeks 1-4, then the prop. from weeks 5 till the end. i say around 300-400mgs of prop. a week is fine...keep in mind, with 500mgs of aratest a week, you're still getting 100mgs of prop. from there.

[buffarat]

I have done an Eq/ Ara cycle before and if its your first you are looking to have one hell of a first cycle bro..............The dbol should be used in the begining. I too agree with bigbadasian in that you need to start with the prop at 300-400mg / week. If you can get prop 100by qv....take 2-3cc's per week on top of the 500 mg Ara or just 100mgs of prop in ara.. Its good shit. THis cycle will definatley put you well into the 310-320 lb range if its your first and you run it right. Good luck and keep us posted on progress

[BStrongBwell]

Run the prop at min 500...I wouldn't cut the cycle any shorter than 8 weeks. RUn the dbol at 40mg/ED for wks 1-5. I promise you'll be happy with the results. If you run a shorter cycle, you'll be stopping before you'll see the best gains. I personally don't run anything shorter than 10 weeks.

[Oldman]

Originally posted by BronSon
6'5".285lbs,11.5bf.holy shit!!!and you said this is your first cycle?thats one hell of a package to start with.

I have been doing this for a long time. I have to say congrats on making 285 natural. 11.5 bf is also pretty good at that poundage. The AS is going make you huge. As your name suggests. By the way how long have you been lifting and what is your age?

[IwannabeHuge]

I have worked out for around 7 years seriously...... I am only 23. Nutrition and sports along with some genetics is all i can say did it thus far.

[mr t]

definately run the prop at 100mg eod , this way u maintain peak concentration in the blood, say weeks 6-12,

[Pusher]

100mg EOD is only 300-400mg a week. If you want to run EOD injections, I'd like to see you run at least 200mg per injection, if not 300.

I'd much rather see you run 100-150mg/day, IMHO.

[IwannabeHuge]

okay, thanks fellas..........I will run the prop at 300mg eod weeks six through twelve. My other concern is androgenic fat. Should i take nolvadex or clomid during and following this cycle? I do have that on hand as well. I have HCG too. what would you do?

[Macdaddy]

Take the nolvadex ed or eod depending on how much you have. This will reduce water retention. Use the HCG at around week 6-7 for a few days. Then run the clomid with nolvadex post cycle.

[Pusher]

Use Arimidex or Letrozole instead of Nolvadex though. Nolvadex will occupy androgen receptors and reduce igf-1 production. Run HCG every 4 weeks. Run the clomid like this:

Day 1: 300mg
Day 2: 300mg
Day 3: 200mg
Day 4: 100mg
Day 5: 100mg
Days 6-10: 50mg