Limp on gear?????? Post cycle problems

vietvet · #1 (**permalink**) 07-13-2002, 03:52 PM

I have naturally occurring low test

I did my first cycle about 600 mg of deca and 600 mg of test. 10 weeks, I started my clomid 3 weeks after my last shot. It was not clomid, it was fake. I bought it at the gym. By friend told me it was not real. it did not seem to be working and the package did not have omifin 50 mg on it. My labido was trashed. and I was limp. So on week 5 post cycle I took another shot of test 300 mg. I also got some hcg 3 days later and started to take 1cc of hcg. I took the shots for about 7 days and I was still low on the labido, so I started another cycle of 600 mg test. cyp two shots a week. 1.5cc

My labido is not as strong as on the first cycle and I am worried if I did any permenant damage. Should I end this current cycle now and try to work through the low labido and kick start my own test?

Some help from some knowlegable people would really help.

Thanks.

superman1975 · #2 (**permalink**) 07-13-2002, 08:31 PM

I would find the asshole that sold you the bogus clomid and kick the every loving shit out of him!

teck · #3 (**permalink**) 07-13-2002, 10:55 PM

i dont think you did any permanet damage, it just takes time to kick back in

vietvet · #4 (**permalink**) 07-13-2002, 11:46 PM

would it make sense to start the real clomid asap and the hcg for a whole month??? Carry the hcg all month.

Bigbadasian · #5 (**permalink**) 07-14-2002, 01:11 AM

|--[\\\\]>------- start shooting 600mgs of prop. and you'll be hard all the time! I did 600mgs of Toe deca for 8 weeks and i couodln't get hard w/out the viagra...fucking shit fucked up my sex life, then i got on the prop. and BOOM! Instant hard ons....my girlfriends thought i was a porn star...i'd cum and still stay hard for 2 more rounds b4 going soft!

Oldman · #6 (**permalink**) 07-14-2002, 05:10 AM

I do not know what toe is, but deca makes you limp. You have to stack it with test. Help me out here am I missing something, or where am I messing up.

superman1975 · #7 (**permalink**) 07-14-2002, 06:09 AM

yep definitely run some hcg--should have said that before good looking out vietvet! get the clomid asap--hell go to your family doc he will help you out--just tell him the story, they have to use discretion

akursus · #8 (**permalink**) 07-14-2002, 06:35 AM

And give your natural test time to recover. It usually takes me 5 weeks after a good cycle to start feeling like my normal self again even with REAL clomid. Some guys it even takes longer. You need to let your body normalize. Don't worry too much about permanent damage as I believe you would have to be on harsh adrogens for quite some time before irreparable damage occurs (like 6+ months). And even then you can sometimes recover. You might want to get some legit clomid... believe me... you will know when it is working... you will drown whomever she may be...
/t\

Really bro... get some tribulus, arginine, hornygoat, and keep lifting with creatine and you will be fine in a month. Use these natural sups and you will recover in no time...

AK Ursus...

Bunyip · #9 (**permalink**) 07-14-2002, 07:29 PM

Bump for AK. Good advice, Bro.

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piratalatino · #10 (**permalink**) 07-16-2002, 09:44 PM

DEca is fuckin' shit, it makes my test down till 225ng/ml after the cicle, I don´t like deca, you can be months out of normal test levels.

Macdaddy · #11 (**permalink**) 07-16-2002, 09:51 PM

I found Fina to be much the same as deca in the loss of sex drive department. But you are right on the money BBasian!! Test prop makes me as horney as a three peckered billy goat!! I think next time I'm going to discontinue the use of fina quite a few weeks before I stop the test. Last time I crashed hard. (well, limp actually. LOL!!) even with clomid and proviron post cycle!!

Macdaddy

rj420 · #12 (**permalink**) 07-16-2002, 10:39 PM

Yep, deca wreaks havoc on your HPTA. Thats why I will go with EQ over deca anyday. I never went limp on deca, but couldn't bust a nut.... not that it was a bad thing, at least for her. As already said, get real clomid, nolvadex, tribulis, ZMA. All of those drugs will help get your endogenous test levels back up. Go to your doc and see what he can do. I'm not even sure Clomid is approved by the FDA, so he may not be able to prescribe it.

BronSon · #13 (**permalink**) 07-17-2002, 02:39 AM

yup,I`m with akursus on this one.good advice.

IronMike · #14 (**permalink**) 07-19-2002, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by akursus
And give your natural test time to recover. It usually takes me 5 weeks after a good cycle to start feeling like my normal self again even with REAL clomid. Some guys it even takes longer. You need to let your body normalize. Don't worry too much about permanent damage as I believe you would have to be on harsh adrogens for quite some time before irreparable damage occurs (like 6+ months). And even then you can sometimes recover. You might want to get some legit clomid... believe me... you will know when it is working... you will drown whomever she may be...
/t\

Really bro... get some tribulus, arginine, hornygoat, and keep lifting with creatine and you will be fine in a month. Use these natural sups and you will recover in no time...

AK Ursus...

Good advice that!!! I use trib post-cycle for a while when I need to get it up, and hey - there's nothign wrong with a bit of viagra when it's needed! IronMike