I have some serious pain.........

buffarat · #1 (**permalink**) 06-21-2002, 01:23 PM

Ok guys i am on 600mg/week Eq-QV200 (750mg/week ARA or 600 enth/150 Prop) I have hit the sciatic nerve before and know how it feels........THis isnt it. I am shooting out of 21 guage 1.5'' needles and i can only push them in about an inch before the pain gets so fucking bad that i have to stop. I take really good care of my gear in keeping it clean and I also never shoot more than 3cc's in one glute. My last two injections were on Monday and last wednesday. I tried last night and couldn't. I dont think its an infection, any help here. Should i just use some 1" needles for now or what. This is a bitch and just wondered if there was a home cure or trick that you may have for me..........Thanks for any help- Buffarat

applesauce999 · #2 (**permalink**) 06-21-2002, 02:48 PM

i dont know about you, but i shot 250mg enanthate with 50mg of fina in my glut on tues and its still killin me...for me it takes a little over a week for the pain to fully go away...you also might have moved the needle last time and its just extra sore..ive done that before...i would bump it in your quad in two places...dont bump the full 3 cc's in the same spot...hope this helps

earlygraver · #3 (**permalink**) 06-21-2002, 03:06 PM

iv'e found that if i shoot high on the glute, it's more painful. i believe this is because there is less fat there and you pass into the muscle tissue right away, thus you are driving about an inch worth of needle into muscle tissue. however, if i shoot into a lower, fattier part of my glute, i don't even feel the needle until the last 1/2 inch, because the first inch of needle was passing thru fat....you want to remember that the reason you are using an inch and a half pin is because it is expected to travel thru some fat before reaching the muscle wall....if you shoot into an area where the muscle wall is close to the surfacethen you are driving that pin through a lot of muscle and scarring is also more likely.....last but not least, if you don't allow the alcohol on your ass cheek to dry fully before shooting, then you actually drag some of that shit into your body, and that fucking kills!!!

earlygraver · #4 (**permalink**) 06-21-2002, 03:08 PM

oh, and then ther''es the old newbie trick of freezing your ass cheek for ten minutes before shooting, i did that for my first three or four shots

cowboy198 · #5 (**permalink**) 06-21-2002, 05:27 PM

21 guage,shit sounds like scar tissue,try using 23 or 25guage pins
heat your gear a little bit and shoot slowly. try not to bend the plunger.

blond_bomber2 · #6 (**permalink**) 06-21-2002, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by cowboy198
21 guage,shit sounds like scar tissue,try using 23 or 25guage pins
heat your gear a little bit and shoot slowly. try not to bend the plunger.

hey bro can you give a little more detaisl about hating the gear up!!......?....i have testex..i have heard is painful..i rather see the pain/soreness annoying and it gets in my way of my workouts!..thats why im asking you!!..i wanna try heating them up!!..i was thinking of wrapping the amps together with tape and boilig them!!....?what should i do bro?.......what temp and how long?.......and what will this do to the amps with the testex about the pain!!.....

CUDA · #7 (**permalink**) 06-21-2002, 06:54 PM

Hello fellas, New to the board and I like it! I always heat up my stuff before any shot. First I load the rig, then run the syringe part of it under hot tap water. I don't think you want it to hot for fear of it burning when it goes in. Then change your needle a "25g" 1in. into the quad. To also try to take some sting out I mix all my test with eq very smooth.

cowboy198 · #8 (**permalink**) 06-21-2002, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by blond_bomber2

hey bro can you give a little more detaisl about hating the gear up!!......?....i have testex..i have heard is painful..i rather see the pain/soreness annoying and it gets in my way of my workouts!..thats why im asking you!!..i wanna try heating them up!!..i was thinking of wrapping the amps together with tape and boilig them!!....?what should i do bro?.......what temp and how long?.......and what will this do to the amps with the testex about the pain!!.....

ok buddy, 1st don't boil your gear. when I talk about heating it just run it under hot tap water, this will help getting it through the smaller pin, and with it heated the oil will dispurse faster. If there is a lot of alcohol in it it's gonna hurt anyway. hope this helps.

blond_bomber2 · #9 (**permalink**) 06-22-2002, 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by cowboy198
ok buddy, 1st don't boil your gear. when I talk about heating it just run it under hot tap water, this will help getting it through the smaller pin, and with it heated the oil will dispurse faster. If there is a lot of alcohol in it it's gonna hurt anyway. hope this helps.

ok buddy thanx!..but i already knew that!!..i guess it came to me naturally to do that!....i have over 40 amps of testex..that came from mex and i wanna sterilize them..they most likely r dirty on the outside..and when you inject you touch tha damn thing all over the place!!

cowboy198 · #10 (**permalink**) 06-22-2002, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by blond_bomber2

ok buddy thanx!..but i already knew that!!..i guess it came to me naturally to do that!....i have over 40 amps of testex..that came from mex and i wanna sterilize them..they most likely r dirty on the outside..and when you inject you touch tha damn thing all over the place!!

I here ya bro, let me do some checking I'll get back to ya/t\

buffarat · #11 (**permalink**) 06-25-2002, 02:52 PM

Damn....I think its just an infection........fuckin mexican gear. It happens to the best of us. Good thing i have antibiotics on hand. I am just glad that its not an abcess..........At least I really hope its not. I ve been lucky so far. Oh well. Thanks for all the little tricks....I think I had already heard most of them. I was just wondering if maybe i had been tearing scar tissue deep inside my glute or something.....but i dont think its the case. Thanks again, buffarat

bigmoe · #12 (**permalink**) 06-27-2002, 02:22 PM

DO NOT run your syringe under a hot tap pre-injection. The heat will make the rubber seal in the plunger expand and it'll be like trying to inject concrete.
Heat up the amp first then load the syringe.

buffarat · #13 (**permalink**) 06-27-2002, 02:26 PM

shot 3ccs today and had no pain........thank god! all is well.

getnbigger · #14 (**permalink**) 06-27-2002, 05:24 PM

first off heat up the juice by AFTER filling the syringe up take the needle off and put it in a cup with the needle missing end up. stick it in the microwave for 10 second. then pull it out, put the needle back on, get rid of the air and poke yourself.

as for the outside of the amps just wipe them down with alcohol. and wear rubber gloves if you need to.

hope this help.

getnbigger · #15 (**permalink**) 06-27-2002, 05:26 PM

to get rid of the pain. i like to use a product called "biofreeze" it is a gel that really gets rid of pain. if you cannot find it anywhere let me know i can get it and send it to you. Try local health places and massage stores. It makes you massage the area (which helps disperse and absorb the oil) and it has a nice cooling effect. A pea size amout will do your whole thigh.

Hope this helps.