Deca site injections?

[ironone1]

Hi xwillk/rm bros, I'm fixin' to start injecting deca soon, and was wondering if it was ok to inject your delts and chest? I thought there was a thread awhile back saying that delts was a no no cause it collects and forms large pockets there. Is this true, and can you inject your chest with it? Chest has been my favorite spot so far. Thx again all ya'll hardcore motherfuckers, talk to ya'll soon, ironone1

[rAJJIN]

id say delts yeah chest hell no, you crazy man.
Never heard of the large pocket theory?

[xcelbeyond]

Site Injection
By willk

I just wanted to say a little bit about site injections. Seems a lot of body builders are using this technique in hopes of bringing up weaker body parts, or to swell the show off muscles like the bi’s.

Well, I’m here to tell you that site injecting in hopes for increased size in that muscle maybe pointless unless you are using ester free gear.

The temporary swelling that occurs from drugs like sustanon are not going to result in permanent size.

What you are actually doing is increasing the risk of getting an infection in a site like bi, tri, or calves. You don’t want an infection there; it may lead to a hole in your muscle after the infection is removed.

So how can it work? It’s simple, once I explain the ester.

The esterified steroids you inject are useless at binding to the receptor until the ester is removed. Once the ester is removed the steroid is now active (can bind). What does this have to do with site injections? EVERYTHING.

The place where 98% of the esters will be removed is in the blood stream. 2% in the muscle cell. The enzymes, which remove the esters, are found in the blood stream.

So when you inject a drug like deca, it has to be taken from the injection site, into the blood stream where the ester is removed making it active, USEFUL to the growth process.

So, when the gear is active, it’s in the blood stream, now every muscle has as good chance in using (binding) the steroid. The steroid will bind with the androgen receptor, making a hormone-receptor complex, then enters the cell nucleus, where it binds to DNA, and activating specific genes. (you grow)

How do we increase the muscle at the site injection, that lagging calf, or weak tri… it's very simple.

Want the answer? It’s ester free gear.

If the ester is already not present, then the steroid can bind directly with the androgen receptor of that muscle, giving that muscle the first crack at it. This will help to bring up those muscles that are having a harder time binding.

Types of drugs to use. Winstrol injectable, Testosterone Suspension, Liquid Anadrol, Injectable Dbol........

One myth is that if you use oral (ester free) steroids with DMSO over the muscle in question it will increase that muscle's size, and that muscle will get first crack at the steroid. This is not going to happen. DMSO releases the drug into the blood stream, then the drug gets distributed from the blood stream, and every muscle has the same chance of using the steroid.

Orals are ester free, dbol, anadrol, etc... You can crush the tablets in sterile water, sterilize the whole mixture, and administer. Please don’t do this unless someone very knowledgeable is with you to show you how to do it! This practice is dangerous, and can do more then cause infection. There can be serious sides when going with site injections with oral/liquids.

Be safe. remember to study an anatomy chart well before ever injecting. injecting in areas other than the buttocks increases risks of many factors. be careful, and make sure you know what you are doing before injecting. seek out a medical doctor or someone who can help you if you do not have the proper injection procedures understood.

This is a highly debatable issue. this is only my opinion based on 'self study.' I thought I would post it and see what people thought.

xcelbeyond /t\

[ironone1]

Very good info. xcel! I was thinking about other sites mainly just for rotation purposes, to limit the scar tissue in one particular area, and to help alleviate the pain and swelling I get sometimes in my shoulder. Kind of like when the doctor gives me a cortisone shot in the trouble area's like my shoulder and heel. I guess I could rotate my glutes around for only 3 times a week.

[xcelbeyond]

I would classify delts, quads and glutes as "normal" injection sites. When the doctor gives you an injection does he/she ask you to pull down your pants - NO - they usually inject your delt.

If you are using these sites (there's 6 of them) for ED injections, you are basically using one site per week.

xcelbeyond /t\

[ironone1]

Ok so it is ok to inject test and deca into your delts. 3cc's at a time max.; sound right? :kickass:

[xcelbeyond]

I've been putting up to 2.5ml in delts and it wouldn't bother me to go up to 3ml - but I've been told I'm a little crazy. I just make sure I inject SLOOOW, to reduce trauma - 1 minute per cc.

xcelbeyond /t\

[ironone1]

Sounds good bro, I'll go slow. I can handle 3 times a week alot more than every day injections, their really not that fun. :088:

[xcelbeyond]

I use to feel the same way about ED injections - avoided 'em like the plague. During the cycle I'm just finishing, I was taking up to 11 different injections ED :kickass:

xcelbeyond /t\

[NUTSOE]

BIG BUMP,for XCEL,bro since i've been a member you've been nothing but useful great advice great articles,you have my vote to be a mod,

[basskiller]

Originally posted by xcelbeyond
I use to feel the same way about ED injections - avoided 'em like the plague. During the cycle I'm just finishing, I was taking up to 11 different injections ED :kickass:

xcelbeyond /t\

11 a day or 11 aweek?

11 a day and you have just become the NEW poster child for being a "Pincusion"! LOL

Later buddy.
bass

[xcelbeyond]

Originally posted by basskiller
11 a day or 11 aweek?

per day /;

Nutsoe: I've been spending a LOT of time serching and asking questions (time that I should be spending doind cardio ROTFLMAO ). Whenever I get good info, I file it. I'm just able to share my findings whenever it seems like someone else has similar circumstances.

I'm really too "biased" to be a mod /; Thanks for the thought though bro!

xcelbeyond /t\

[rAJJIN]

I disagree w/ that site injection ester free theory. Sure it makes sense but Id have to say the best gear for site growth is
of course site oils#1 but as far as gear Im sayin
#1 eq
#2 winny (ok it has no ester)
#3 test prop. no way i would site inject suspension.. ouch, not to mention the needle clogs up almost e/time.

The eq works very well for many. and just to clear it up now
no disrespect to willk, as he knows 10x what i do.

[ironone1]

Just wondering how you guys would inject 400mg of deca a week? I'm doing it with 750mg/wk of test. I know the test would be 3 times a week, but would you do the deca once or twice a week, if it matters?

[xcelbeyond]

Here's the way I look at it, even for long half-life AAS such as deca, EQ, cyp, etc... It you are going to be injecting say 3 times a week, inject everything such as your test and deca, as long as you have room in the pin. Your blood levels will tend to stay more even with more frequent shots - not a necessity, just better,

xcelbeyond /t\

[ironone1]

Gotcha, then I will shoot the deca twice a week or possibly 4 times if I use half of a vial each time. Twice would probably be the easiest. =)