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Old 04-28-2002, 08:42 AM
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Fina Question

my lifting partner and i are having a debate... he has purchased a couple cartridges of fina and doesn't want to bother ordering fina kits and running through the whole process of making them injectable... he believes that they will be just as or more affective if he just crushes them up and puts them in sesame oil and injects them... i keep telling him that he should just get the kits and do it right because i don't know if your body can break down all of the glue and crap that is also in the pellets, which is i guess separated in the process of using the fina kits... i've always bought my fina already made injectable and haven't had to worry about the process... he argues with me, that how can i know that some of the tren isn't lost in the process of making them injectable... i would like to hear any input from any of the fina gurus out there on there take on this

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Old 04-28-2002, 09:28 AM
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tell him he's stupid if he doesn't use a kit on it...Fina is too good to waste...without the kit and being broken down he wont' get any of it i'd be willing to bet
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Old 04-28-2002, 01:54 PM
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It will turn out lookin like shit bro, ive done it.
At the very least your still gonna need a SF. (syringe filter)
and the cofee filter. The kit will save you from wastin your pellets.
Ive used a couple hundred Ml of converted tren.. no sides except good ones. The kits are proven to work for years now.

Your on the rite track** just do yourself a favor an get the kit
along w/ Are Man WillK~s directions an youll be satisfied.
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Old 04-28-2002, 03:06 PM
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i put some crushed pellets in sesame oil several months ago and forgot about them until i read this. i just looked at them, and they haven't broken down one bit. no way i'd stick that in my body. the kits are very easy to use, and the product is sterile and painless to inject. the kit is the shit.
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Old 04-28-2002, 04:48 PM
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Heeeey! Statix, what's up??? better convert that shit with a kit!!
See ya later.
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Here's WillK's article on converting fina.
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Old 04-28-2002, 06:06 PM
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Here's WillK's article on converting fina.

Fina pellets – to – Fina-ject by: willK
Inventory check. Make sure you have everything before you begin.
Pellets (2,000mg's make 76mg/20ml)
10cc syringe
3-5 cc syringe
Two needle tips
filter
3 vials, one with solution, one with oil, one empty (sterile) vial
Funnel
Coffee filter
Alcohol or alcohol wipes
Gloves (plastic bags)
Crush pellets with an alcohol wiped spoon, in a alcohol wiped dish, jar, glass etc. Crush them finely. The finer the pellets are crushed, the less time they take to dissolve in the solution.
Put a funnel into the vial with lesser amount solution, (clear solution), and pour the crushed pellets down the alcohol wiped funnel.
Let the solution sit, swirling it once every minute, until the pellets have completely dissolved. (depending on how well you crushed the pellets, this could take from 20min – 12 hours)
While the pellets are dissolving, get out a 3 to 5 CC syringe, and draw up 2 – 3 CC's of oil and recap the syringe and put it away. You will need this (2cc's) for one of the last steps in this process. (Note: get two cc's from the oil vial, darker solution, not the vial with the dissolving pellets, but from the unused oil vial)
Once the pellets are COMPLETELY dissolved, pour the oil from the vial you drew out 2cc's oil into the vial with now dissolved pellets. (Add oil from oil vial to dissolving pellets solution/pellets vial)
Swirl the oil/solution/dissolved pellets mixture for 5 – 15 minutes or until it is completely MIXED.
Get the now emptied oil vial (the one you used to pour oil into the pellet/solution vial) and place the funnel into it, then, place the opened coffee filter into the funnel.
Then pour the oil/pellets/solution that has now mixed well, down into the coffee filter slowly. Let it sit over night and drip into the vial.
In the morning. Gently squeeze out any remaining oil in the filter and let it drip down the funnel. then remove the filter and funnel.
This is a picture of the coffe filter. discard all of the gunk the filter caught.
Wipe top of the empty (so far unused, sterile vial) vial with alcohol, and insert a needle tip to release pressure when adding the final product.
Use at least a ten CC syringe and draw out 'oil/pellet/solution' mix into the syringe.
Remove th needle tip. Place a filter and needle tip on the filled syringe, and filter the syringe contents into the sterile vial. Continue this step until all the 'mixed solution' is into the sterile vial.
Then, put the filter on the needle with the saved 2cc's (from the oil you saved earlier waiting for the pellets to dissolve) and insert the needle in the sterile vial and run the oil through the filter releasing any trapped 'product.'
Remove the needle and needle tip, and you now have 20ml of sterile ready to use Fina-Ject.
-willK
Note: i used a 50cc vial, so that is why the finished bottle looks so empty.
Note: you can skip the coffe filter step, though i DONOT recomend it, as the finished product will be cloudy, and has clogged needles.


I hope that helps some of you. If so, thank WillK, he wrote it!
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Old 04-28-2002, 07:44 PM
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Thanks guys for all the replies! I think I've got him convinced to go ahead and get himself a kit. I'm also gonna save a few pennies and just buy the cartridges and convert them with a kit in my next cycle too.

Later.

Oh yeah, hey Moose give me a call some time!
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Old 04-30-2002, 12:00 AM
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bigkraut that math isn't adding up (2000mgs makes 76mg/20ml)

wouldn't that be 100mg/ 20ml even if you factor in waste, it would still be higher.
Take a look at these numbers....
http://www.elitefitness.com/members/...onversion.html
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Old 04-30-2002, 12:23 AM
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use a kit on that shit!..............Would you put something you weren't sure about into your body? I wouldn't!
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Old 04-30-2002, 12:24 AM
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Two things, bro. One, I can't take credit for that article. It's Willk's article that I cut and pasted here from another site. Two, the math is neither Willk's nor mine, but that of the kit maker. You would have to debate that issue w/the "A"-man and others who make kits, as I have know idea how thwy come up w/their numbers.
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Old 04-30-2002, 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by bigkraut
Two things, bro. One, I can't take credit for that article. It's Willk's article that I cut and pasted here from another site. Two, the math is neither Willk's nor mine, but that of the kit maker. You would have to debate that issue w/the "A"-man and others who make kits, as I have know idea how thwy come up w/their numbers.
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