Fina has definately "kicked-in"!

[xcelbeyond]

Well - here's my basic routine (for everything). My first 3 sets are done in succession (no warm-up - read details before slamming me) with no rest between sets. 5 reps for each set.

First set is performed with a weight that is relatively easy (almost too easy). Exercise is performed in a VERY slow deliberate motion. Then I add weight and performed at same speed but with enough weight added so that 5 reps is "hard." Last set, weight is added and performed at same speed but with enough weight added so that 5 reps is all that can be done.

Then I take a breather and set-up the bar/machine to do the last 3 sets in succession, no rest between sets, at normal motions (which tends to be on the slow side for me). 5 reps for each set and shoot for failure on last set. When I can perform 8 reps on last set, I move up the weight on beginning/heavy (and possibly 2nd) set. The first set is an amount that I can do 5 reps (no more - remember by benchmark for increasing this weight is the last set). Then remove weight, no rest, and do 5 reps (no more - if I feel I can do more, the weight may be increased for next session). Then remove weight, no rest, for final set as described earlier.

When I'm on the juice, the last 3 sets take EVERYTHING I can muster. I'm literally lying on the floor wasted - trying to catch my breath!

So - would you consider my 1st 3 sets warm-ups? I never thought of them that way but when I think about it they really are.

That being the case - I do this routine once for each small muscle group (shoulders, biceps, triceps, calves). Do this 2 times (6 sets) for chest and back. Three time for legs (which I consider a compound muscle group - quads and hams) - Squats (hits both quads and has) 3 sets, quads 3 sets, hams 3 sets.

Today I did 5 EASY reps at 330 on bench press. Should be able to hit 350 for 5 by end of this cycle.

Just wanted to share how this 49 better bb'er works out (you're either gettin' older or better)!

xcelbeyond /t\

[Shawn]

hey excel, well you've only mentioned what you benched now..what did you do before the fina? and how long are you on fina and at what dose? are you taking anything else with it? did you increase your calories much over your previous intake? you should give us more info..

[2massive2]

congrats. good to hear your getting gains!

[xcelbeyond]

My best off-cycle is 315 for 5 reps. My PB is 335 for 5 reps. Been on Fina/Winny for 5 weeks, Prop for 12 and EQ for 12 (just finished EQ). Frontloaded fina (1st 4 days) at 150mg ED, then 75mg ED. Winny @ 50mg ED (25mg x 2). Prop ED @ ~600mg week. EQ ED @ ~600mg week.

I had a terrible bout in the middle of this cycle with T-3 (never used it before and won't again). Lost 8 lbs of muscle and strength!! It took a while to get it cleared out of my system.

I'm not counting calories but I'm basically on a Keto diet with one "cheat" day a week. I shoot for 350 to 400 grams protein ED and minimum carbs (mainly low glycemic index) and try and supplement w/good fats. Do a small carb load after workouts. I should be losing more fat than I did this cycle, but the T-3 messed-up my system somewhat. I'm 5' 6", small frame (6-1/2" wrist), 197 lbs, and ~9% BF.

xcelbeyond /t\

[crackingvials]

good job. you are the man

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Originally posted by xcelbeyond
My best off-cycle is 315 for 5 reps. My PB is 335 for 5 reps. Been on Fina/Winny for 5 weeks, Prop for 12 and EQ for 12 (just finished EQ). Frontloaded fina (1st 4 days) at 150mg ED, then 75mg ED. Winny @ 50mg ED (25mg x 2). Prop ED @ ~600mg week. EQ ED @ ~600mg week.

I had a terrible bout in the middle of this cycle with T-3 (never used it before and won't again). Lost 8 lbs of muscle and strength!! It took a while to get it cleared out of my system.

I'm not counting calories but I'm basically on a Keto diet with one "cheat" day a week. I shoot for 350 to 400 grams protein ED and minimum carbs (mainly low glycemic index) and try and supplement w/good fats. Do a small carb load after workouts. I should be losing more fat than I did this cycle, but the T-3 messed-up my system somewhat. I'm 5' 6", small frame (6-1/2" wrist), 197 lbs, and ~9% BF.

xcelbeyond /t\

Damn, that's not bad for an oldman! LOL...Thanks for sharing this information with us, xcel!/t\ Keep up the good work!

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[cypandro]

Originally posted by xcelbeyond
My best off-cycle is 315 for 5 reps. My PB is 335 for 5 reps. Been on Fina/Winny for 5 weeks, Prop for 12 and EQ for 12 (just finished EQ). Frontloaded fina (1st 4 days) at 150mg ED, then 75mg ED. Winny @ 50mg ED (25mg x 2). Prop ED @ ~600mg week. EQ ED @ ~600mg week.

I had a terrible bout in the middle of this cycle with T-3 (never used it before and won't again). Lost 8 lbs of muscle and strength!! It took a while to get it cleared out of my system.

I'm not counting calories but I'm basically on a Keto diet with one "cheat" day a week. I shoot for 350 to 400 grams protein ED and minimum carbs (mainly low glycemic index) and try and supplement w/good fats. Do a small carb load after workouts. I should be losing more fat than I did this cycle, but the T-3 messed-up my system somewhat. I'm 5' 6", small frame (6-1/2" wrist), 197 lbs, and ~9% BF.

xcelbeyond /t\

Hey bro, just curious about how much T-3 you were using. I used it once without being on juice and experienced the same thing you did. Another time I used it with juice and actually it worked quite well for me. I didn't lose any strength and it did a nice job of helping me lose a little fat.

[xcelbeyond]

Well - I ramped up to 80 mcg (divided daily doses). It didn't do squat. At first I thought it was bad T-3 (from *P). Then I got a hold of Raver's articles about T-3 usage. I would post the link to this article but he took it off his web site. The closest I found is http://www.bigmuthas.com/forums/show...=&threadid=475 (this is somewhat incomplete compared to full article). I did 1mcg per pound of body weight.

xcelbeyond /t\

[buffarat]

go you! congradulations...........