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using arimidex instead of clomid!!?
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Old 04-22-2002, 12:21 AM
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using arimidex instead of clomid!!?

i am hoping i can use arimidex instead of clomid!!.....i heard from many that it does a good number on kicking natural T production....can i do this???..........and what would be tha dose??..i was thinking 1 atb a day for 3-4 weeks???....good??......
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clomid is way better for getting your nads going again
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Old 04-22-2002, 06:41 AM
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|---[\\\\]>-------- I have to disagree! I am taking 25iu's of arimidex a day and it's working wonders. I am currently on omn's dbol, deca, gh, slin cycle and i am holding NO water at all. I am planning on taking it all the way through the cycle and also 3 weeks after cycle as well. I have done this b4, WITH better gains. Clomid is cheaper, but the acne alone that i get w/clomid is not worth it. Dex will keep the H20 retention down, and helps with the estrogen problems. I will never do a cycle w/out it again.
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Old 04-22-2002, 10:07 AM
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I believe that you're getting two different answers that are more or less correct as your question is not worded very well.

As BBA said, here's no comparing Ana to Clomid for an anti-e "during" a cycle. Clomid is much better for getting your HPTA "after" a cycle. What you should be doing (and I'm doing as well) is take Ana during cycle and "Continue its use Through" Post Cycle Clomid Therapy. Continuing it's use through Post Cycle will assure you don't have any e-related problems during your "rebound."

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Old 04-22-2002, 05:13 PM
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I agree with xcel. Back before armidex hit the market clomid and nolva was used to combat estrogen attatchment to breast receptors and keep your HPTA kicking. You just had to tolerate the bloating. Now, with armidex we can use it to totally block estrogen conversion, thus eliminating bloat, and estrogenic fatty deposits caused by an over abundance of estrogen.

However the armidex will not hep to restore your HPTA post cycle.
The general rule of thumb is to run your post cycle like this.
week1 100mg daily
week2 50mg daily
week3 50mg daily

That will usually do the trick although I know some that like to run it just a bit longer but thats what has always worked for me.

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Old 04-22-2002, 11:25 PM
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nice info here. bump
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Old 04-23-2002, 12:47 AM
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ditto on WCP said but I usually run the clomid at 100mg ED for 3 wweks - probably over kill now that I am taking arimdex all the time during the cycle but still.....
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The reason some people take armidex to help with test recovery is that there is a negative feedback loop with test and estrogen. Basically if you have a high estrogen levels your body will slow down the production of test because the aromatization to estrogen is one way your body regulates how much test it needs to make. So by keeping the estrogen down, your body thinks it needs to get test levels up to normal. Other than that, there no direct effect on hpta stimulation. So in a post cycle plan, armidex w/clomid use can aid in a quick recovery.

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Old 04-24-2002, 11:32 PM
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great post bros!!..really anwsered my ques...........i will do arimidex and clomid..but bros im doing a long cycle..i have changed it to 20 weeks of test...im doing omna right now at 500mg a week and im on my sixth week!!....im going for 9 weeks of omna then im starting 400mgs of test cyp from ttokkyo for 10 more weeks!!...what do ay thing bros???....good????.......for post cycle some of my bros say that i will have to do clomid and hcg!!..will i have to do this???...i was thinking arimidex and clomid and a little dhea!!..what ya bros think????...........AND RAJIZY..YA HIT THA NAIL RIGHT ON THA HEAD BRO!!..VERY WELL SPOKEN!!...THANX A LOT..I UNDERSTAND IT MUCH BETTER!!.......
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Old 04-25-2002, 01:49 AM
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Here's Post Cycle Clomid Therapy info from my archives. I would switch over to a fast acting test like prop or suspension for at least the last 2 - 2-1/2 weeks so that you can effectively begin post cycle clomid "shortly" after last injections!

Starting post-cycle clomid therapy depends on what @#%$ was used during the cycle. Different @#%$ have different half lifes and beginning clomid intake should be adjusted accordingly. If clomid is taken when androgen levels in our body are still high, it will be a waste. You need to wait for androgen levels to fall before implementing clomid therapy. However, if you wait too long you could possibly lose gains. Look at the list below to determine when you should start clomid therapy. List all the @#%$ used in your cycle and which ever one has the latest starting point then go with that. For example, if cycle consisted of dbol, sustanon and winstrol, use cessation of sustanon to determine when to begin clomid as it remains active for the longest period of time.

Anadrol/Anapolan: 8 - 12 hours after last administration
Deca: 3 weeks after last injection and clomid for 4 weeks
Dianabol: 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 17 – 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 10 – 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 3 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 8 – 12 hours after last administration

Use Clomid at 300mgs on first day of administration. Split this up 2 tabs (50mg ea.) 3 times a day. After first day, use 100mgs (one tab, 2 times a day) for 10 days and then followed by 50mgs for 10 days.

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Old 04-25-2002, 09:43 PM
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i know what you are saying bro totally!!..but i wanna do test cypionate from ttokkyo for 10 weeks at 400mgs a week..right after my omna cycle which lasts 9 weeks......then i will do clomid therapy!!..but if doing this will make me loose my gains i will definetly not do it!!..but im sure thats not gonna happen with this right??..i mean is justa long cycle!!..20 weeks!!.......and im doing another test because im juicing up for football season!!......but since test cyp from ttokkyo according to frk gives you knots and doasent allow you to lift comfortably and in my case lifting and football practices..i cant have too much pain!!..so i wanna do another test!!..any suggestions???......i was thinking a tes only needing to be injected no more than twice a week........what about t200????good stuff compared to test cyp from ttokkyo??????.......please help me out bros!!
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Old 04-26-2002, 05:07 AM
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BB2 - You can get phenylprop and inject it every three days (I still shoot it ED). I should be clear of your system, to begin clomid therapy, about 4 days after last injection. It's "Human Grade" gear and can be bought relatively inexpensively.

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