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Old 04-18-2002, 12:55 AM
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Deca & Winny Cycle

I want to shred up for the summer. I dont want to bloat up but do want to get some size and strength gains. Pretty much I dont want to have to buy a new business wardrobe. I already have 20ml of 200mg Deca and 35 shots of winny depot. Can someone offer some advice on how to cycle it or should I be adding to it. I prefer to strech it out so I look good until the end of the summer.

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Old 04-18-2002, 03:50 AM
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if it were me i would use that deca in 10 weeks, and use the winny toward the end of the ten weeks to get real hard and to stop any progesterone sides that may come to a head
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Old 04-18-2002, 11:22 AM
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Listen bro , use it like this (assuming you have 50mg winny):

Deca w 1-10 (400mg) Shot Mon,Thurs.
Winny w 6-10 (350mg) Shot ED.

You'll get hard and full but remember without TEST you won't see much growth.
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Old 04-18-2002, 05:03 PM
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Any suggestions on what else to throw in?
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Use some Propionate...
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Old 04-18-2002, 05:11 PM
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Use some Propionate...

Prop does not cause very much bloating as blood levels don't get too high. The prop will absolutely prevent any sexual sides generated by the deca (even though at 400 a week I doubt that will occur) and as an androgen, it and the winny will harden you up and the deca will add some growth being an anabolic. Eat lots of protien and decrease the carbs.

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Old 04-18-2002, 05:25 PM
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I have to agree, you can add some test. If worried about the bloat take an anti-estrogen. Arimidex is good. .25mg per 250 mg of test is a good rule of thumb. Carry it through post cycle and you will notice a good result with the htpa kicking back in.
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Old 04-18-2002, 06:24 PM
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Also the test will keep the deca dick away.

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Old 04-18-2002, 07:45 PM
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Thanks fellas for the advice. How much prop should I pick up and how should I cylce it in? Whats the going rate for Arimidex?
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Well...
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Old 04-18-2002, 09:58 PM
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Well...

I personally do 100mg eod for the propionate. I have some brovel T50 that I am using now and I go 3ml eod which should amount to about 100 mg +) Even though it is supposed to have 50mg per ml.

Find a good remailer for the chinese arimidex and it is very reasonable. If you go with the brand name, expect to pay dearly but it is hands down the best anti-e you can get.

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Old 04-19-2002, 03:26 PM
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If arimidex is 1 mg/ tab and lets say I am taking 100ml of propionate eod. Should I only be taking 1 tab a week? When should I start taking the armidex the first week I of the test and how long afterwards?
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Just my opinion...
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Old 04-19-2002, 04:24 PM
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Just my opinion...

But if you are only doing 100mg of prop eod you don't need arimidex. Your blood serum level of Testosterone will not get real high with prop so you won't see much if any bloating on it. It's only when you are doing dbol or a longer acting ester like sust or enanthate that you need to use arimidex to kill the bloat.

IMHO arimidex while taking prop eod is overkill and expensive. I remember the first time I used the OLD omnas... I blew up like a puffer-fish and thought I was having an allergic reactionROTFLMAO I started arimidex on the advice of a griseled old vet and within 3 days I was back to normal and gaining size and strength like a freak. I have done lots of prop in the past and experienced no bloat while using it.

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Old 04-19-2002, 04:39 PM
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If do the prop and deca for 10 weeks and hit the winny for the last 5 weeks, I should take some clomid or proviron towards the end and after the cycle, correct?
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Old 04-19-2002, 05:10 PM
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Yup...

The winny will help solidify the gains you have made and the clomid will help bring your edogenous test production back.

Do lots of morning cardio and cut your carbs. This will be a decent cutting cycle.

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Old 04-19-2002, 07:54 PM
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How many weeks into the cycle should I start taking clomid and how long after should I stop the cycle. How much clomid should I be taking each week.
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start the clomid near the end of the cycle.
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