Intermediate lifter 1st cycle advice

[mrfitness2008]

HI,
i would like to do my first cycle ever and would appreciate any advice.

My weight is 200 pounds,5ft9,40 years old, and have been lifting for over two years now.
My question is should i begin with orals and eventually move on to injectables?which roids are best for first time?
I have researched about PCT and taking milk thistle during cycle.

I would really love any advice from experience gear users.

Cheers.

Dave.

[Silver4Judas]

Ive used for about 15 years. I started at age 20, wich was 2 young..oh well. If i were you i would stay away from orals unless you use absolute caution! Test E is a great first timer at 250mg 0r 500 split into monday and thursday. Taper up then down....200 per week for two or three weeks then 300 for two 400 then 500 then 4,3,2. At older ages you really need to have a good pct in mind. Im 35 6'5" 280.lbs and have not had any problems thus far. Hope this helps.... GUYS CHIME IN, IVE BEEN KNOWN TO BE WRONG.

[mrfitness2008]

Cheers for that,
i will follow your advice and look forward to making strong gains as i know orals are toxic to the liver.
Would you stack it with anything else?

[Silver4Judas]

Being that this will be your first. I would just stick to test e. You need to test the waters before jumping in. Get 4 or so cycles in of low dose then decide if is right for you. You could put Deca and D-bol in the mix if you really wanted too.?...??? Test E at 250mg for weeks 1st,2nd,3rd & 6,7,8 weeks 4 & 5 500mg. Deca at 200mg wk 1, wk 2&3 300 mg , Wk 4 & 5 400mg , Wk 6 & 7 300 mg , Wk 8 200mg. D-B Wk 1,2,3 30mg A DAY Wk 4,5,6 40mg A DAY. Starting at Wk 4 to Wk 9 20mg of Nolvadex DAILY. Wk 9 50mg Clomid DAILY. T E & Dec are WEEKLY. When you are in the 3 4 & 500mg range inj. MONDAY and THURSDAY. Orals are ok if you treat them right.... When age comes in to play you need to really watch ye old liver. Also no outside stress when taking ASS......booz, smokes , chimpmunks......They will knaw your nose off. JK LOL

[mrfitness2008]

Originally Posted by Silver4Judas

Being that this will be your first. I would just stick to test e. You need to test the waters before jumping in. Get 4 or so cycles in of low dose then decide if is right for you. You could put Deca and D-bol in the mix if you really wanted too.?...??? Test E at 250mg for weeks 1st,2nd,3rd & 6,7,8 weeks 4 & 5 500mg. Deca at 200mg wk 1, wk 2&3 300 mg , Wk 4 & 5 400mg , Wk 6 & 7 300 mg , Wk 8 200mg. D-B Wk 1,2,3 30mg A DAY Wk 4,5,6 40mg A DAY. Starting at Wk 4 to Wk 9 20mg of Nolvadex DAILY. Wk 9 50mg Clomid DAILY. T E & Dec are WEEKLY. When you are in the 3 4 & 500mg range inj. MONDAY and THURSDAY. Orals are ok if you treat them right.... When age comes in to play you need to really watch ye old liver. Also no outside strees when taking ass......booz, smokes , chimpmunks......They will knaw your nose off. JK LOL

That's really helpful cheers.
I have hardly ever drunk and never smoked,so my liver is as far as i know in perfect working order.
Orals seem cost wise the better solution but at more of a risk than injectables,i just gotta find someone that will inject for me,or did u grin and bear it the first time?
Dave.

[Silver4Judas]

It really does not hurt... Look at how to do inj banner at the bottom. Where you pin yourself has first dibbs on what your using. DO NOT TENSE YOUR MUSCLE or you will know true pain! Like if you pin a leg, put wait on other leg. Draw your gear and let out a drop as to run down the needle for lube. A tiny bubble or two is not bad.... Just get out any big air pockets for safety. Pin and pull on the plunger if you see blood re pin w/ same step...pin....pull plunger. Blood means you are in a vein. Now if you pull and dont see blood...but after pulling out you see a bruise forming it is most likely you went into and out of a vein.....NO BIG DEAL!! You might get alump at inj site, most of the time not a biggy... Just pay att to it if it cont gets worse and turn funny color and you feel kinda sick it could be a cist. Go to your nearst doc and have it checked out. Do not ever inj intra into a vein=BAD BAD REALLY BAD DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Billy/Silver4Judas.

[mrfitness2008]

cheers,
i will cycle it with dbol tabs to kick start mass building,and will get some test E,the directions make it look quite a simple procedure but practise will make perfect!
How long would you suggest i stay off the gear once the first cycle is complete?

[Silver4Judas]

8-10 weeks.