Nick's Supastack

[Nick]

Now Ive said hi - I was looking for opinions:
What do you guys think to the stack I may do in the new year?
:
1000mg sus pw
750mg testaviron pw
500mg testex propionate pw
400mg deca pw
all for 8 weeks plus
weeks 1-6 will bang in 6 Dbol pd (or maybe more=gr) )
also thinking of frontloading ttokkyo equi 800mg - any views?

Of course Ill run Nolv at 20mg eod to help water retn
and diet and training will be impecible.

Im having a natural spell (lol) at the moment - after no decent break for 12 months!!

Im open to all comments - as I want to learn - havent posted this on MT yet (secret for the mo!)

[BigKraut]

Damn! That's alot of test, brother. I've never gone much over a gram of test a week. I prefer to stack a bunch of stuff at moderate dosages. Let us know how it goes.

[Nick]

yeh not starting til Jan - need to polish the receptors first!!!!lol

Ive never done this much either. Il probably change my mind a bit - but Im buying up now, esp with the Paki sus drying up due to the war!

[trident]

Ive been doing 3000mgs of sus/testoviron 250 for 5 weeks now and the only side effects are agression and spots...feel sick all the time but i guess i expect this at the dose level..sounds a good stack nick..=g)

[BigNasty]

those are bigboy dosages. You must be a bigboy. Yes tell us how it goes. Yes paki sus is cheap now and will probably 1. dry up, or 2. get even easier to get with us paki relations going well now. we shall wait and see. That is a lot of test. when i went that high in grams, i used things like EQ in place of more test. but if you get no gyno sides, why not?

RM

[Nick]

any comments on front load eq?
the paki sus is to dry up according to my source - thats good info!

I would like to be a biggerboy! lol

Im doing lots of test but the anabolic ones too

[hannibal]

i would change

1000mg sus pw
750mg testaviron pw
500mg testex propionate pw
400mg deca pw
all for 8 weeks plus

to more like

1000mg sus weeks 1-5
500mg testex propionate weeks 5-10
800mg EQ pw
400mg deca pw

all for 10 weeks
and the dbol will be a good idea. weeks 1 -5

the only difference between the prop, and the sus, is the ester. you load the test weeks 1-5 with sus, then week 5-10 run the weaker ester found in prop to boost the test that is present.

this works well, and when the sus is finally running out, you are at the end of the cycle, and ready to stop the prop.

then get your hands on some clomid brother.

[Bigbadasian]

|---[\\\\]>------- This is just my opinion, but i would do the following:

Sus250:
750mgs a week for 12 weeks

Prop.:
500mgs a week for 12 weeks

Deca:
300mgs a week for 12 weeks

Dbol:
Do for the first 5 weeks and start at 40mgs a day and taper down as the weeks go by.

//I used to do high mgs cycles, but i have found that longer cycles at mod. doses are better (not that 750mgs of sus250/500mgs of prop. is mod.) but it's still less than what you had first stated. I also have never taken Eq and Deca together in the same cycle, but many ppl believe that the 2 go well together...i usually just pick one or the other and do taht for the entire length of the cycle.

[Nick]

Thanks loads guys!
I see what your saying - esp hannibal with the sus then the prop. But I still need to do big cycle - its a self experiment if you like. My friend trident frequenlty does big test cycles. He is an expert on heavy androgen use.

Im gonna heed your advice and maybe do prop later - but I still feel sus needs to be for 8 weeks.

you 2 not into frontloading eq then? Ive never treid it.

[trident]

not a massive beliver in the front loading idea myself..feel that the body compensates by forceing a slower release of the drug into the sysytem to protect its self...maybe even destroying some along the way...as i do long cycles its not appealed to me but i can see your point of view guys and respect it too..Trident=g)

[CRYPTONITE]

OK I WOULD ADD MORE--BUT THEN AGAIN I'M A CRAZY SOB! I LIKE THE EQ AT THE END TO HELP SOLIDIFY THE GAINS, AND WHY ADD THE NOLVA? TAKE PROVIRON INSTEAD, NOLVA FIGHTS WITH THE RECEPTORS A BIT SO WHY TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE JUICE? ALSO I WOULD HIT THE PROP AT THE END ALSO, HIT THE SOS AND TESTO WITH THE DECA AND BALLS, THEN SWITCH IT UP TO THE EQ AND PROP WITH THE PROVIRON, THEN THE LAST WEEK RUN 3 WEEKS OF INSULIN AND CONTINUE THE PROVIRON AND ADD SOME CLOMID. MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME UNLESS YOUR LOOKING FOR A CRASH. PEACE ALL

CRYPTONITE

[Nick]

Thanks for your comments but Nolv is much more effective antiestogenic than PV, so on a heavy test - more useful. I may do PV aswell as it is anabolic!

Also I should have said, Ill be using insulin at points during the cycle - I use it irregularly - find thats best for me.

Clomid goes without saying!

[testalot]

crytpo, sounds like some solid advice, i only disagree with the proviron, it fights receptors too, the androgenic receptors, and proviron is androgenic. But crypto, you are almost pro, so you would know. I saw your pics on the net like 6 months ago at mesomorph

[CRYPTONITE]

MY MAIN PROBLEM WITH NOLVA IS THAT IT DROPS YOUR BODYS LEVELS DOWN TOO MUCH, AND PROVIRON DOSEN'T.
DID YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU RUN NOLVA, 3 A DAY FOR 30 DAYS IT WILL BOTOM OUT YOUR TEST AND G LEVELS BOTH? GRANTED WORKS GREAT FOR GYNO BUT OTHER THAT THAT I HATE THE STUFF. PEACE ALL


CRYPTONITE

[hannibal]

nolva does fuck you up in the long run. When i did long run cycles i had to use nolva because i get B-tits. And after a time i noticed exactly what crypto is saying. I have been researching this for an article as well. Thanks for the confirmation into what i suspected cryp. you are almost a pro bro? post a pic up here! I want to check you out baby!

[Cold Fusion]

Unless cost is a factor to you, why not just use arimidex or aromasin for an anti-e?

Cold Fusion

[Nick]

I may use arimdex, but TBH Im spending £££££££££££ anyway!! So Ill be skint!
Im not one for gyno but Ill use 10mg nolv pd just to keep water down. I may not bother - but Nolv is cheap. I do agree that Nolv drops the bodys levels. But Ill be on so much shit anyway.
Remeber thou that PV is anabolic too, so....

[Nick]

Ive had shit loads of trouble getting back onto this site (as admin knows - since youve been trying to help me) Looks like all OK now!! Thanks for the help.

Anyway - just bumping this thread for more comments please!