what size pins do you use?

[BigChild]

what size pins do you use?

[gunny]

18 to draw.......21 terumo to administer

[excape]

I use 23 to draw and 23 for the glutes thats also 1 inch long not to much fat on the glutes.

[jstrong20]

I use to use 23g 1.5'' but recently switched to 25g 1''.

[Big Red Johnson]

23 ga 1inch for draw and inject as long as I am drawing from a multi dose vial. I dont like to use a big ole pin to draw from those as it will make it leak.


I use a 18ga when drawing from amps. No real need for such a huge gauge when shooting, builds up scar tissue more than a small pin.

I am using aratest and deca in the same pin right now, so the loading pin is dull by the time it goes through two stoppers. I put a new needle on when I am ready to shoot.

:088:

[xcelbeyond]

I'm not sure why everyone likes to use big pins. Here's my $0.02 worth on size and why.

Use a 20g or 18g to draw gear with. Suck a little air in syringe then replace the pin with a 25g (of course remove air before you poke). Use a 1" for everywhere (quads, delts, bis. tris) and a 1-1/2" for glutes (unless you're on of those skinny guys w/no arse).

You dull a needle poking through the septum in a vial. So, doing this will give you fresh pin for the poke. It takes a LONG time to draw gear through a 25g pin (very frustrating if you do). The 25g will make you inject SLOWER. You shouldn't be injecting faster than 1cc per minute. The 25g will help injections go slower and will cause less trauma at injection site.

xcelbeyond /t\

[Big Red Johnson]

Man, I freakin cant push oil through a small pin like a 25. I guess water based is ok, but my thumb takes a beatin while tryin to push it through.

And I just learned on the boards to leave a small bubble in there to push the little bit of juice out that normally remains trapped..


I have used this just recently and I like it alot.

I may be doing someting wrong about the big pins, if there is a trick lemme in on it, cause the small pins are freakin excellent, easy going in, easy coming out, very small scare tissue, the list goes on and on.

Ps, I heat my oils up with a heat lamp before loading and shooting.:help:

[Big A]

Originally posted by xcelbeyond
I'm not sure why everyone likes to use big pins. Here's my $0.02 worth on size and why.

Use a 20g or 18g to draw gear with. Suck a little air in syringe then replace the pin with a 25g (of course remove air before you poke). Use a 1" for everywhere (quads, delts, bis. tris) and a 1-1/2" for glutes (unless you're on of those skinny guys w/no arse).

You dull a needle poking through the septum in a vial. So, doing this will give you fresh pin for the poke. It takes a LONG time to draw gear through a 25g pin (very frustrating if you do). The 25g will make you inject SLOWER. You shouldn't be injecting faster than 1cc per minute. The 25g will help injections go slower and will cause less trauma at injection site.

xcelbeyond /t\

I agree 100%! I guess most guys are suckers for pain! LOL

[Freez]

I use 23ga 1.5" for everything. Of course I use 18ga to draw/t\ Peace. Freez.

[nemesis]

you can not tell people what to use unless you know there b/f%
some people low, medium and then you have people with more b/f%, i can use 5/8 length pin in my delts and calfs, of course 1inch in quads and glutes, that extra 1/2inch scares the fuk out of me BECAUSE i have such low b/f%. Bsically in a nut shell thats what it boils down to is b/f%.

[Big A]

gauge is irrelevant to bf%.

[xcelbeyond]

Originally posted by nemesis
you can not tell people what to use unless you know there b/f%
some people low, medium and then you have people with more b/f%, i can use 5/8 length pin in my delts and calfs, of course 1inch in quads and glutes, that extra 1/2inch scares the fuk out of me BECAUSE i have such low b/f%. Bsically in a nut shell thats what it boils down to is b/f%.

Well I may be wrong bro - but I was told to inject AAS using "deep" intra-muscular injections! If someone who believes they are lean does what you are describing, they just go through the skin, fat and into the muscle - not deep IM.

Even with seo I've been told to put it deep enough into muscle or you can get lumpy look.

xcelbeyond /t\

[xcelbeyond]

Have you ever timed your injections using a 23g pin? I'll bet you're between 20 and 30 seconds per cc, which is too fast in my book (20 - 30 seconds per cc CAN seem like an eternity).

I keep my gear in the basement where it's COOL. I never take the time to heat up pins - hell, I'm usually taking 4-6 injections and don't have all day ROTFLMAO Guess I have "strong" fingers!

xcelbeyond

[nemesis]

never had any nots, that didnt decipate within two or three days.
if you dont get any pain like that frogged feeling then i would suggest going deeper. you just need to get it in the muscle
deep enough to where it dosent come back out of course. and you cant tell me youll never get a not of some sort.((that will decipate shortly)) And if you never get a not,, then hey,,, my hat off to ya.

[Oldman]

22 x 1.5 to draw and to poke. it does dull a little when combining two AS but I find if you poke in keep it still -- I rest my hand up against a rack or something and push slow. I have almost no trauma and no pain afterwards. I use a 25 x 5/8 for hgh.


A 25 would be nice for the glute but I dont know if I can get the stuff through it. Maybe I will try it on next shot day. Def would take a min to push on ml through.

[nemesis]

the slower the betta./;

[dirtyminded]

23 g.

[bbforlife]

i use a 22 for everything

[Big Red Johnson]

Im taking only 6ccs a week. But I go really slow, I am ashamed to tell you how long it takes for me to put 3ccs in. Hell let alone how long it takes to actually get the pin all the way in!

I hit a nerve once and didnt really like it, so now it takes me about three mins to slowly shove the pin in!

I am a wuss, I know but I just put it where I want it, and just keep pressure on it. I go slow enough that I have been able to tell when Im gettin near a nerve.

All this may be "superstition" but its "my little ritual".

I have given myself alot of shots this way, very very painless, not even the "pinch" that is associated with pokin.

I taught my brother to use this method, its like a mosquito, if you arent paying attention, he's done!

But I do agree, if you can use the smaller pins, by all means, use them. I just cant seem to make them work for me.

[NAPALM1]

I use 21 guage X 1 1/2 inch for my glutes. 22 guage X 1 inch for my quads and 23 guage X 1 inch for site injecting bis, tris and delts. Later