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Old 04-03-2002, 03:45 AM
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there are many HGH products but...

which HGH is best? the pre mixed. or the kind you mix? there is alo a vet kind, i saw it in the picture forums. what i the way to go?
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The ones like Nutropin and humatrope are really good but they are damn expensive for the money go with serostim its pretty cheap and also pretty good.
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All HGH is identical, except Genentech's Protopin. They all have the exact same 191 amino acid sequence. Protropin has 192, and isn't considered as reliable as the other HGH products. Equigen is a horse GH, not a human growth hormone and is not meant for humans to use. The amino acid complex is way off, and it is not reliable at all. The chinese generic, while having the proper amino acid sequence, has been tested several times and is extremely underdosed. Out of 18iu (6mg) there is only 4-5 iu of the product that has the correct sequence and the rest is completely useless. So, even for the price savings per vial, you are actually losing money using this product. Serano Serostim has flooded the American market and can be found for excellent prices. There has been some Serostim found to be re-labeled Chinese though, so be careful when purchasing it. Otherwise fakes are usually either re-labeled or re-bottled HCG. You can test to find out if its HCG by injecting an entire ML before bed and taking an at home pregnacy test the next morning. If the test says your pregnant, its HCG. Later
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Old 04-04-2002, 06:35 PM
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Your rHGH only has a usable shelf life of 14 days so do not get it "premixed". HGH is an unstable protein; in the PDR it says it must not be shaken and must be refigerated.
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Yea -- I get the serono export. 18 iu per vial -- great price and turn around. I use bateristatic water it is supposed to give you better shelf life but I use in 2 to 3 days any ways. it is easier on the injections site as opposed to the sterile water. Just a little less redness.


Most important when reconsitituting is to roll the vial not shake it. Roll btwn fingers and thumb gently. Refridge it and if it is cloudy the next day you have ruined it.
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Old 06-26-2002, 06:30 PM
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The chinese generic, while having the proper amino acid sequence, has been tested several times and is extremely underdosed. Out of 18iu (6mg) there is only 4-5 iu of the product that has the correct sequence and the rest is completely useless.
I read a report by Canadian health authorities that said chinese gh was slighly OVERdosed. Do you happen to have a link or reference for the underdosing theory? Thanks very much.
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Here you go!!
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Old 06-26-2002, 08:34 PM
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Here you go!!

Nutropin-Good luck finding real deal

Protropin-Good luck finding real deal

Serostim Hologram-Soon to be obsolete and if you can get 1 per month it will be $900-1000.

Humatrope-Too expensive for what you get

Chinese-90% of the time is contaminated

Saizen-SUCKS!!

Equigen-Don't even fucking ask!!

Serostim Exports-You guys can fucking bitch all you want thinking they are not good but, I have YET to have a bad kit and I go thru like 4 per month and LOVE THEM!! Have had over 20 tests done on them and never had a vial lower than what I expected in it. Not trying a sales pitch here but, I as well as quite a few Pro and NPC buddies use them and LOVE THEM.

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Ry. when you say exports.....
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Old 06-26-2002, 10:02 PM
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Ry. when you say exports.....

what exactly do you mean. I am new to the gh scene. What is diff between export serono and domestic??
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hgh is one of hte best things you can get!!..especially when yuou have one of the best suppliers of it for cheap!!...but damn i would turn down hgh anyday for EPO...i started saving up in 99'.lol.im almost done completing the money for an epo cycle for a 17 months!....
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Old 06-26-2002, 10:36 PM
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hgh is one of hte best things you can get!!..especially when yuou have one of the best suppliers of it for cheap!!...but damn i would turn down hgh anyday for EPO...i started saving up in 99'.lol.im almost done completing the money for an epo cycle for a 17 months!....

Are you an endurance athelete? If not, I don't see how EPO will help any, if at all. Very dangerous drug if not used properly, which means lots of blood work.
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Re: Ry. when you say exports.....
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Old 06-26-2002, 10:37 PM
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Re: Ry. when you say exports.....

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what exactly do you mean. I am new to the gh scene. What is diff between export serono and domestic??
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One is packaged to export to other countries, and one is packaged for domestic sale.
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How does.......

the packaging differ??
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To Blonde Bomber!!
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Old 06-27-2002, 03:37 AM
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To Blonde Bomber!!

Epo is a lovely product but, would never give GH up for it.hehhee SHit, the nose bleeds are fun and all but, c'mon.LOL EPO is best utilized right before show or I have even used it in between courses and that works great. Don't know where you get it but, you can get 20k iu's for like $300-400 and that last quite awhile.

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Are you an endurance athelete? If not, I don't see how EPO will help any, if at all. Very dangerous drug if not used properly, which means lots of blood work.

im not a sprinter or a mile runner but the sport i play requires lots of endurance!!..epo helps me a lot!.....ry roid..how about using hgh and epo together ..oh boy!!.not unheard of either!!...that would be a sweet cycle if ya have the cash and doc to keep track of your health!......
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Here is what I do!!
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Old 06-27-2002, 05:21 AM
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Here is what I do!!

I am currently dieting now and have 8 weeks left. I will start the EPO in 1 week for 6 weeks doing 1000iu's EOD while using 18iu's of GH per day. I drop the EPO a week out and GH bout 2 weeks out. EPO makes those 2hours of cardio go by soooo easy.hehhehe Pumps are CRAZY TOO!!

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Re: Here is what I do!!

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I am currently dieting now and have 8 weeks left. I will start the EPO in 1 week for 6 weeks doing 1000iu's EOD while using 18iu's of GH per day. I drop the EPO a week out and GH bout 2 weeks out. EPO makes those 2hours of cardio go by soooo easy.hehhehe Pumps are CRAZY TOO!!

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i c bro!!...i will run those doses by the doc who helps me with it!!.....im still saving a litle xtra..for the epo and hgh....but i wanna add something more!.....i was thinking doing a very high dose of eq!.since ive never done it i will do high doses....and i dont mind that i have to use atleast double the dose next time i sue it!!....you rally can get eq for cheap!.....
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Old 06-27-2002, 08:41 PM
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I do diets in 4 phases. Here is a quick example:

Weeks 18-13 out
Sust
Deca
Enan
synthol
Drol
T-3
Clen
Slin
GH
IGF(30days on 30 off)

Weeks 12-7 out
Prop
EQ
Primo
Masteron
Fina
synthol
T-3
Clen
Slin
GH
IGF

Weeks 6-1 out
Prop(Weeks 6-4)
Susp(Weeks 3-1)
Primo
Fina
Masteron
synthol
EPO(Weeks 7-2 out)
T-3
Clen
Slin
GH(Cut 2 weeks out)
IGF(Cut 2 weeks out)
Glucophage
Cytadren

Last 7-10days
Drol
Var
WinV
Aromasin(Anti E to dry out)
Demedex
Slin
Gucophage
Cytadren
Nolitil

Dirty job but, someone has to do it.hehehe

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costal, yes the packaging is different, the domestic has holograms and a insert, the export don't they are just sealed. peace i like the exports just as good and they are cheap!!
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I do diets in 4 phases. Here is a quick example:

Weeks 18-13 out
Sust
Deca
Enan
synthol
Drol
T-3
Clen
Slin
GH
IGF(30days on 30 off)

Weeks 12-7 out
Prop
EQ
Primo
Masteron
Fina
synthol
T-3
Clen
Slin
GH
IGF

Weeks 6-1 out
Prop(Weeks 6-4)
Susp(Weeks 3-1)
Primo
Fina
Masteron
synthol
EPO(Weeks 7-2 out)
T-3
Clen
Slin
GH(Cut 2 weeks out)
IGF(Cut 2 weeks out)
Glucophage
Cytadren

Last 7-10days
Drol
Var
WinV
Aromasin(Anti E to dry out)
Demedex
Slin
Gucophage
Cytadren
Nolitil

Dirty job but, someone has to do it.hehehe

RY
very coordinated bro!...i see no harm done to our health by doing this the way you are!!...did ya do this plan on your own or did ya have a doc assemble it??......i will pm you my year round cy6cle when my doc gets all the meds on hand!....lots of epo..... hgh....eq.....test cyp........old omnadren.....human grade prop.....and im tryng to get spectro products because i heard they now ship to the U.S.......which is awsome...therey prices from what i hear are incredible...but i dont have they're email...or website.....atleaset im glad there are underground labs that are better then IP....100% better!!......and bro since the first time i started AAS i used proviron!.how come you dont use it bro!??...a couple of years ago some university did a test in provi..and said that it does shrink estrogen/gyno..but nthe best part that it does not block out other AAS..which is what nolva does.and someother anti es......even if it does ..i see great results even with proviron....and i always look ripped year round!......
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i am a little worried about the way your using the orals...your using 2 alpha 17s...var and drol....and im sure ya aint taking 100mg.since you train like a pro..and juice like a pro...you take 50mg of drol per 50 ibs..right??...how many ya taking 8 tablets..lol....everything else looks pro status bro!!......
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Old 06-28-2002, 05:03 AM
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i am a little worried about the way your using the orals...your using 2 alpha 17s...var and drol....and im sure ya aint taking 100mg.since you train like a pro..and juice like a pro...you take 50mg of drol per 50 ibs..right??...how many ya taking 8 tablets..lol....everything else looks pro status bro!!......
Don't worry bout me buddy. I take my breaks and give myself time off and have a good doctor that keeps me alive. He said I will be around for a year or 2 more.hehehhe I don't do anything like a pro really so don't flatter me.LOL I just am not good at anything else so I train everyday like it is my last.

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Don't worry bout me buddy. I take my breaks and give myself time off and have a good doctor that keeps me alive. He said I will be around for a year or 2 more.hehehhe I don't do anything like a pro really so don't flatter me.LOL I just am not good at anything else so I train everyday like it is my last.

RY

lol....LMAO.....i ment you stack smart like a pro..but when i saw those orals together.i thouhgt of markus rhul not a pro!!..lol.....
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