IP -VS- TTOKKYO

testalot · #1 (**permalink**) 11-02-2001, 12:33 AM

Ok, i tried the ttokkyo 250 OOOOOOOOUUUUCHHHHHH

and i heard the IP stuff is full of alcohol too. whats the word?
who has done a run with IP and thinks it's good, bad, ugly?
also, are the winnytabs (50) any good?

420 · #2 (**permalink**) 11-02-2001, 01:22 AM

The 50mg Winny tabs are good. I've never tried
the Sus. Nothing against our bud from the far east
but I won't shoot anything that I have to bake, and
fuck around with hoping that its sterile. Just get some
amps of Sus or Omnas.

420

hannibal · #3 (**permalink**) 11-02-2001, 04:17 AM

i have speant many a night in the kitchen, or with a syringe filter....

J.P. · #4 (**permalink**) 11-02-2001, 07:26 AM

I love his cyp..... I have used near every brand.... and would rank his to be as good as any on the market for the last 20 years.

I have used most all of his goodies except his sust.... sorry.

And just a note as food for thought.....
You dont have to bake his liquids because his production methods are not sterile, it needs to be baked because it is being shipped in a bulk container. Any injectable liquid that gets open to free air or is being "re-poured" into another container or vial.... must be sterilized.

JP.

mwrmma · #5 (**permalink**) 11-02-2001, 04:46 PM

i am using his sustanon 300 now. it is the third week in and i like it so far.
i havent baked it or sterilized it though. how do i do this? i do notice a lot of pain and a lump under my skin where i injected it and it stays for about a week or so. i inject in my glutes.
any info on this baking/sterilizing would be of use.
thanks for the help guys!!!!!!

hannibal · #6 (**permalink**) 11-02-2001, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mwrmma
i am using his sustanon 300 now. it is the third week in and i like it so far.
i havent baked it or sterilized it though. how do i do this? i do notice a lot of pain and a lump under my skin where i injected it and it stays for about a week or so. i inject in my glutes.
any info on this baking/sterilizing would be of use.
thanks for the help guys!!!!!!

this thread covers the cooking/sterilizing of gear go here

http://rippedmass.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=41

Bigbadasian · #7 (**permalink**) 11-03-2001, 10:40 AM

|----[\\\\]>--------- I will NEVER EVER fuck with toe sus again...2cc's in my right quad left me handicapped for almost 3 weeks! Yes, that is 3 weeks of limping, not being able to train legs, lump the size of a golf ball, and finally, not being able to bend my leg more than a 45deg. angle..all from 2cc's of Toe sus! The only things that are good from Toe, IMO, are Nor300 and their orals. I hvae not used IP stuff.....don't like the overseas thing.

edarrin · #8 (**permalink**) 11-05-2001, 11:26 PM

How about those 10ml bottles of sust300? If you put it into syringes at one time and stored it in a cool,dark place will it be allright? Don't really want to bake it(hypothetically, assuming that one had some ,hehe). It seems to me that more alcohol makes it less likely to cause infection.

Caramon · #9 (**permalink**) 11-06-2001, 03:21 AM

I'm starting another Cyp/Deca/Dbol cycle....all courtesy of our Kung Po friend. I usually stick to glutes and quads, but I got a little rambunctious a few nights ago and (while front-loading) I put 2cc/cyp and 2cc/deca in my right glute (no biggie), but I loaded and shot another 2cc/Cyp in my left Delt. Holy crap has it been sore since Wed! \./ I didn't bake/heat it, e.t.c...and I didn't cut it w/Deca...hence the pain. I LOVE IP gear, and I usually look forward to the subtle ache I've come to associate with my 'growth spurts', but WOW....I'm gonna stick to glutes and quads for my 'jects

I've always had excellent gains, with NO probs and this cycle I preloaded 12 weeks worth of combo-darts with 1cc Deca and 1.5cc's Cyp for 2 shots/week.

JesusBOD · #10 (**permalink**) 11-07-2001, 01:05 AM

I have used the IP Deca. It is pretty good...

edarrin · #11 (**permalink**) 11-07-2001, 02:06 PM

Did you bake the deca? Any problems re:infection/abcess?

JesusBOD · #12 (**permalink**) 11-07-2001, 06:37 PM

=2)

not at all.. actually, I have never heard of baking or heating stuff up before using until I got here. Also, no infections/ abcesses

i learn something everyday.

JesusBOD · #13 (**permalink**) 11-07-2001, 06:38 PM

=2)

not at all.. actually, I have never heard of baking or heating stuff up before using until I got here.

i learn something everyday.

hannibal · #14 (**permalink**) 11-07-2001, 09:08 PM

whenever you get vet or counterfit items, use some form of sterilization.

Ry Roid · #15 (**permalink**) 11-07-2001, 10:11 PM

I am a big fan of IP products and have found they hurt because of the amount of benzyl alcohol in it to make it pure and rarely do I bake it. I like some Ttokkyo shit but, some I can do w/out.

RY

IronMike · #16 (**permalink**) 11-08-2001, 04:43 AM

I've tried his 50mg winnie tabs, good shit and well packed. No inj though.

Am currently trying TT eq as is a friend, and we both agree - the stuff is as good as gold! I am planning on including it in everything for a looong time. IronMike