The Truth about Site Oils

[Cold Fusion]

Ok, since there seems to be quite a few misconceptions as to what site oil does, and I am getting tired of seeing a few less than intelligent people posting things like:

"Uh, all that does is pump your muscle and it doesn't last."

"This stuff can kill you. I don't know what's in it, but it almost killed Milos"

etc, etc, etc.........

I have decided to type this post. Please bear with me as I do tend to be long-winded. Big A, Crypto, Slayer, BigKraut, BBA, and a few of the other boys might attest to that fact....LOL. Also, it will not follow a set pattern. In other words, I might jump around from one topic to the other as I am writing this in sort of a stream of consciousness mode, or, for those that slept through English Literature, basically writing as I think....LOL.

Here we go:

The purpose of site oil is to STRETCH the muscle fascia.

The muscle fascia is a limiting factor in the overall speed of muscle growth. Think of the fascia as a restrictive covering that holds the muscle in. If you had a way to enlarge/stretch this restrictive material, then the muscle could grow more rapidly. This is where the site oil comes into play very well.

Once question I often see is: why not gear instead? The main problem with gear is that it DOES NOT last as long as site oil; therefore, it really cannot hold the stretch as long as SEOs can due to the quicker dissipation. Does gear work? Yes. Is it better? No.

Another problem is the cost factor invovled. Daily injections of gear can be quite expensive regardless of your personal price. Then you have a general price of site oil at $1.50/ml. And, for this $ 1.50/ml you are getting something that works better than gear anyway at stretching the fasica.

Then myself, Bigrig, Crypto and WillK discussed something that seemed even more logical. Why not mix the 2? Site oil and gear? Willk posted a very nice post on another board about using esterless gear for site injects. Without the ester the substance could quickly bind to the receptors and build the specific muscle without having to enter the bloodstream.

Now you have the gear BUILDING the muscle, and yet you don't have the fasical stretch. AH-HA! Why not use site oil to strectch the fascia and then let the gear build the muscle underneath??? It seems to be a very logical idea. If you want one of the secrets of the pro bodybuilders, you just heard it.

Does it work for powerlifters as well? Yes it does. The muscle can also increase its power and strength easier without the limiting factors of the fascia. There are some world class powerlifters that use site oil. And I am sure that there are many more; however, powerlifting is not my area so I don't get a chance to speak with them too often.

Now we do have a site oil authority right here on the board in Big A. He posted an excellent post on the usage of site oil over at the renegade board. When I have time I will grab the link or just cut and paste it here. Or, if any of you readers have seen it and have time to grab it, please do so and paste it here. Thanks.

Anyway, forgive the spelling mistakes if there are any as I did not proof-read this....and I am running late as it is. See you guys and gals later.

Admin, if you would, could you bump this for people to read or leave it at the top. I just want everyone to realize that site oils are not the demon that everyone thinks they are since that dumbass G Valentino decided to use 100ml per day in his damned arms and shoulders....LOL. Site oils are, in fact, a great tool when used correctly.

Ok, I am so late now that Myst might kill me....therefore, I might not ever return to post again! LOL.

Everyone.....wish me well. =F)

Cold Fusion

[BigNasty]

i will bump ColdF and his information. He is a good bro, and very smart. Knows the subject of aas.

BUMP

[tricep30]

good info answered all i need to know

TRICEP30

[need4spd]

well that's the same post that's on other boards by someone else. If any of the bro visit mesomorph, it's bumped up to the top and it goes into great detail.

[testalot]

Originally posted by need4spd
well that's the same post that's on other boards by someone else. If any of the bro visit mesomorph, it's bumped up to the top and it goes into great detail.

saw it at gade, and elsewhere too. but it isnt with more detail over there or at meso, it's the same exact post just repeated by people, i think Big A, th mod here started the article...

BigA, true?

speed, arent you a mod at mesomorph? peace

[Cold Fusion]

It is not the same post that is on the other boards....however, now Big A's post is on the board.

If you will look in my original post, you will see that I mention Big A having a site oil usage post on the other boards. These include Renegade and Meso.

So I hope you were not thinking that I somehow stole this info from another poster.

Big A and I have collaborated on certain site oil talks as well as with other people, so you will see some of the points in his post come out in mine as well.

Sorry, no offense intended, it just sounded like I was being accused of ripping off someone else's ideas without giving them credit. Read it again and you will see the names Big A, WillK, Crypto, Big A, Big Rig, etc mentioned.

Take care,

Cold Fusion

[Big A]

I agree with ColdF.

Plus, it's very good to have another post on the subject, as he expressed some points in it that are not in my post.

[Ry Roid]

I have been adding 1ml of site oil w/ every shot for years and some people still aren't convinced that it is safe. The addition of site oil w/ your daily Gear shots give the muscles a fuller and freaky look to them and you don't have to dump 100's of mls into your body every week like some dumbasses out there w/ 28in arms and fucking 10in Forearms.

RY

[need4spd]

I'm not a mod at meso. Cold I didn't know what was going on with all the site oil posts but if you give credit where credit is due then great post man! At least someone put it up

[Cold Fusion]

No problem, Need2speed, I just brought a little more info to the table as Big A said. It would have been hard to post the info that I did without drawing in from a variety information displayed in other posts. And since I have chatted about it with all the names I mentioned, I certainly was not going to leave them out. After all, it is a group effort here. The more than chimes in...the merrier.

Thanks,

Cold Fusion

[Cold Fusion]

And lets not forget what the big man said up there (RY). Adding 1 ml of site oil daily is an excellent way to go without turning into a lumpy sideshow freak! Good thought, RY.

Cold Fusion

[Rock_Man]

While on the subject here, I have looked into and have done some research on the subject, I have decided to buy some obviously for future use.

One question I have... I read that it was extremely painful after an injection of site oil... to the point they thought they were gonna freak. Is this true, and if so, how long does the effect or pain last (asking those with personal experience)? By which I mean... Is it painful every time you inject site oil, and does the pain last a few days each time or is it just the first time you use it?

[Rock_Man]

Scratch that previous post of mine, I saw the other post on Site Oils and it's effects....

But, What I would like... is to hear from others that have used or still uses it and what were your experiences were/are with it...

Thanx bro's

[cal]

cold fusion.
how long do you use the synthol to promote the stretching effect?

[Bigbadasian]

|---[\\\\]>--------- 1st and foremost, tahnks ColdF for posting this. I myself have gotten into the would of site oils not too long ago and i must say my bis have come a long way....i by no means have huge arms, but they were lagging, and now they are not lagging as much. I did not use a huge amts. either. Like 3cc's the most per muslce every 3 day or so....many ppl do injs. ED. I was new at it so i took it slow. My question to the experts on site oils is have you seen some major/permanent gains from long term use of it? I've used it only 3 seperate times...all of them not being too excesive in oil, but did see some good gains...arms shrank a little, but kept taht 'peak' that i was going for....

[Big A]

Gains do become permanent after months of use.

The small decrease in size that you get straight after you come off Syntherol is due to te swelling and inflamation that you get from frequent site shots going away.

[Cold Fusion]

I agree with everything Big A said. I prefer the on/off method with 4 weeks on and 4 off; however, some opt for to stay on for even longer. 3 months is not unheard of. Or you can use RY's method of continual site injects with smaller amounts of site oil. In other words, instead of going up to 3ml of seo per day, you can stick with 1ml per day, or 1ml EOD.

It is basically a personal preference. Just use a vareity of methods until you find the one that you like best and stick with that.

Cold Fusion

[Cold Fusion]

I just noticed, after reading RY's site post that he does in fact increase the site oil amounts; however, I would still say that most can use 1ml of site oil ED or EOD for awhile. You have to understand that RY is a Big man with big muscles. (We might even get him to throw up a few pics if we ask nicely. :) Therefore, he would have to use more oil to stretch the fascia.

Cold Fusion

[testalot]

if i used site oil, I'm done for at least 3 days. My arm hurts, and i can't even think of getting near my arm with a syringe.... you guys must be hard asses.

[Cold Fusion]

The pain can often depend on the site oil itself. Some brands are less painful than others. Also, what size pin are you using? The brand I use will flow through a 27g with little effort. A friend of mine has used a 28g slin pin, though most opt for the 25g.

Cold Fusion

[Big A]

Agreed with ColdF. It greatly depends on the brand. Syntherol is the least painful. Also, you get used to the shots within days. There is a bit of soreness at the start after the first few shots, but you quickly feel less and less as the muscle gets used to it. I can now stick 6ml in each muscle each day and I don't feel a thing at all.

[cal]

hey coldf or anyone else...
about what amount...i know it varies greatly...what amount for a 4 week "blitz" would be need to make doing bis/tris worthwhile. if i were to use 300 cc total for 1 month in arms and then ...200 a month later to try and maintain some would it be worthwhile?

[Big A]

Hell yeah

With 5 bottles of Syntherol you will ain up to 3 inches on the arms.

If you want to go full blown as quickly as possible, do this:

1ml per muscle for 10 days
2ml per muscle for 10 days
3ml per muscle for 10 days.

That works out to 5 bottles in those 4 weeks. Get another bottle for maintanace after that and you only use 3ml a muscle once a week. That sizth bottle will last you for aes. That's what I do. In that first month you will get up to 3 inches ont the arms and by using 3ml a week after that for a few months will guarantee you having permanent gains.

You should read my post 'Site Enahncing Oils - a how to guide' to be sure that you are using properly. Also, when you buy it from www.syntherol.com, check out their info on the product as well. The more you read, the better you will be.

[Bigbadasian]

|----[\\\\\]>---------- I might try that 'blitz' but of course i'm going to have to use smaller doses....have any of you heard of oil possibly draining into the elbow area due to all the oil taht is inj.?

[Big A]

The oil drains due to shallow injections.

You inject deep and massage after each shot, you won't get any drainage to the elbow at all.